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Re: Help Mikey get to one car - BLINGMW - 01-16-2014

Not a "car" but when it's only 1 inch taller and a couple inches longer than a Crosstrek, and meets your requirements, and wants, and has more power and would be reliable... how about a CRV? I'm sure the interior is "boring".

[Image: honda-crv.jpg]
:dunno: Tongue :thumbup:


Re: Help Mikey get to one car - SlimKlim - 01-16-2014

Speaking from inside our VW-logic-vacuum, I still vote for the sportwagen TDI. Might be a bit on the small side, and its not AWD, but it'll probably give you the best blend of economy, functionality and driving pleasure, assuming a CPO purchase the apparent lack of reliability wouldn't be an issue for the next 5 years. I haven't driven the newer TDIs, hopefully the DSG is the quickshifting GTI version, not the castrated one they put in the Passat 2.5s. If the lack of power got to you, you could always throw a tune on it and give way more torque than a volkswagen should have.


Re: Help Mikey get to one car - Maengelito - 01-16-2014

Mike Wrote:It has been a few months of looking around very lightly. There is no perfect car unless I have 35-40k. Buying a house in eight days so the idea of taking on a car payment too is not cool.

So, requirements:
- less than 25k
- auto
- bigger than a GTI
- 5-door

Very much want:
- fuel economy
- AWD
- nice interior

Nice to have:
- sportiness
- DSG

This car does not exist. The closest I'm finding are the Subaru Crosstrek and the VM Tiguan.

Maybe this has been said before since this thread is 5 pages long but how bout a new wife? :dunno:


Re: Help Mikey get to one car - Mike - 01-16-2014

There are some bad ones out there. Why risk it?

Also, CRV is the king of blah. No.


Re: Help Mikey get to one car - Evan - 01-16-2014

you already like VWs, so how did this thread not already end with jetta sportwagen?

the new update coming out this year looks pretty nice too
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even will come in awd


Re: Help Mikey get to one car - Mike - 01-16-2014

Fear not, it will end that way Tongue

Damn! Didn't know anything about the update since we're shopping used.
When they release AWD, that will be the perfect car for me, but it will be a $30k car and only available new.
Why didn't someone make such a car 2-3 years ago so it is available for what I want to pay now?
Would also dig another few HP.

Unicorn, come to me!


Re: Help Mikey get to one car - Apoc - 01-16-2014

I know someone who (is the farthest thing from a car person and) hates her Jettagon TDI. She says its the most boring, uninspiring car but ended up with it because she couldn't find another wagon that met her criteria.

So, there's that.


Re: Help Mikey get to one car - Mike - 01-16-2014

I think I'm going to have to suck it up and handle "boring" for now. I don't really drive much. Money is going to be tighter. Will eventually think about a fun/spare/project car, but for now: buy house, get a car to share, get my bike stable to where I want it, AND THEN buy a fun car. Kids plop in the middle there somewhere and reserve the right to obliterate any remaining items.

Again, perfect world is an A4 Avant. It is exactly the car I want. The world isn't perfect.


Re: Help Mikey get to one car - BLINGMW - 01-16-2014

Mike Wrote:I think I'm going to have to suck it up and handle "boring" for now.
:thumbup:
There isn't much fun to be had driving on public roads during 99% of your driving. That's all there is to it. A manual trans helps a little, but if it's going to be auto then :finger: it


Re: Help Mikey get to one car - Mike - 01-16-2014

DSG should add a little enjoyment.


Re: Help Mikey get to one car - Apoc - 01-16-2014

BLINGMW Wrote:
Mike Wrote:I think I'm going to have to suck it up and handle "boring" for now.
:thumbup:
There isn't much fun to be had driving on public roads during 99% of your driving. That's all there is to it. A manual trans helps a little, but if it's going to be auto then :finger: it

Not sure I agree. Even staying in the speed limit and not being reckless can be fun in the right car.

That said, I drove a Legacy for five years so I get the practicality above all else thing.


Re: Help Mikey get to one car - Mike - 01-16-2014

Your car is pretty much the catalyst for me not wanting Subaru (one with less power and softer suspension!). Despite having a good amount of power, that thing was a total snoozefest. I really hated it.


Re: Help Mikey get to one car - BLINGMW - 01-16-2014

Apoc Wrote:Not sure I agree. Even staying in the speed limit and not being reckless can be fun in the right car.
Well true. But a car that gets good fuel economy, is reliable, useful, AWD, automatic, meets current safety standards, and isn't at least $50k? No.


Re: Help Mikey get to one car - Mike - 01-16-2014

Is there anything that hits those for 50k+?

If you want performance and fuel efficiency, you're really looking at one of those silly diesels, right?

Q5 TDI is the only thing that comes to mind.


Re: Help Mikey get to one car - Apoc - 01-16-2014

Mike Wrote:Your car is pretty much the catalyst for me not wanting Subaru (one with less power and softer suspension!). Despite having a good amount of power, that thing was a total snoozefest. I really hated it.

I honestly think you're headed the same way with a Jettagon. I bought the Legacy because it met many of the requirements I thought I had, despite it being a pretty boring car. In the end, I didn't really need any of the crap I thought I did. I made some sacrifices on the next car (e.g. AWD) and have a car I enjoy much more. I guess my point is take a serious look at your requirements before settling on boring or else you'll end up with Legacy 2.0.


Re: Help Mikey get to one car - .RJ - 01-16-2014

Can you not find a B8 A4 Avant for $25k?


Re: Help Mikey get to one car - Mike - 01-17-2014

.RJ Wrote:Can you not find a B8 A4 Avant for $25k?

CPO? Not particularly easy. I'm not touching an A4 without CPO.


Re: Help Mikey get to one car - Mike - 01-17-2014

Apoc Wrote:
Mike Wrote:Your car is pretty much the catalyst for me not wanting Subaru (one with less power and softer suspension!). Despite having a good amount of power, that thing was a total snoozefest. I really hated it.

I honestly think you're headed the same way with a Jettagon. I bought the Legacy because it met many of the requirements I thought I had, despite it being a pretty boring car. In the end, I didn't really need any of the crap I thought I did. I made some sacrifices on the next car (e.g. AWD) and have a car I enjoy much more. I guess my point is take a serious look at your requirements before settling on boring or else you'll end up with Legacy 2.0.

Again, I am okay with boring. Priorities have shifted. If 0-60 in 8s and a DSG doesn't do it for me, there's watching my fuel economy gauge bounce around the 40s to keep me entertained.

And yeah, if I'm okay with boring I should not be dismissing Subaru. But... I don't know, there's something intangible that snoozes me instantly when it comes to a Subaru that doesn't have 300hp. And I can't stand their styling so there's that.

Friend is visiting from Seattle with his TSX wagon next week. Should get a good impression of it then.


Re: Help Mikey get to one car - .RJ - 01-17-2014

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Re: Help Mikey get to one car - ViPER1313 - 01-17-2014

2010/2011 Mitsubishi Lancer Sportback come up on your radar? They have 247hp & AWD...