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Re: Project 2.Slow Mazda3 - SlimKlim - 04-22-2016

rherold9 Wrote:Edit: more powerful brakes = more heat so idk how brake ducts wouldn't be needed

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Re: Project 2.Slow Mazda3 - Maengelito - 04-22-2016

rherold9 Wrote:Summit Point Spring Rumble -

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I need better brakes I did not feel confident at all with them. Inconsistent feel constantly after a few front straight hard braking was not fun. A few laps they'd be fine then they would go a lot farther down, I'd let up a bit then they'd be okay for a bit. I decided to just take it mostly easy on the brakes the whole weekend. The pedal wasn't spongy like they needed to be bled. I think it is just the pads. So brake ducts and new pads for Hyperfest I'm hoping (dtc 50s or 60s?). I'll just have to be careful with the pedal and street tires.

then...

rherold9 Wrote:I don't think throwing on dtc60s just up front is a good idea at all or the Carbotechs. At least from what I know about brakes. Worst comes to worst I take it easy on the brakes like at Summit. A few laps 80%-90% braking other laps 90%-100% braking.

Edit: more powerful brakes = more heat so idk how brake ducts wouldn't be needed

Actual race pads will make a world of difference, even if its just the fronts. I promise you this.

Re: Project 2.Slow Mazda3 - rherold9 - 04-22-2016

Well I didn't realize I had to pay insurance haha... that's why I changed my on pads.

Edit: so like I said a post ago I'll charge the plastic and deal with it

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Re: Project 2.Slow Mazda3 - Maengelito - 04-22-2016

navin Wrote:I think you are kind of jumping ahead a couple of steps by going right to brake ducts, but hey if you feel that's what you want to do...

The StopTech street performance pads obviously aren't going to take the constant abuse and I'm sure what you had at Summit was brake fade. So the logical thing to do would be to upgrade pads in the front. If you were to still experience brake fade with actual "track" pads then, yeah I can see starting to look into ducting the brakes.

Also you should be fine by just upgrading front pads -- the StopTech's in the rear will be fine... unless your car has some sort of crazy brake proportion from the factory.

But you all seem to enjoy the extra work, so have at it!

edit - dtc60's might be too aggressive for street tires, I think the XP10's are less aggressive and should be fine on street tires.

SlimKlim Wrote:
rherold9 Wrote:Edit: more powerful brakes = more heat so idk how brake ducts wouldn't be needed

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This. All of this. Well, I don't have any experience on the dtc60s but if I remember, you're on the Bridgestone RE71s? That's a pretty aggressive tire, even for a street tire. Besides, you've got ABS...

Re: Project 2.Slow Mazda3 - rherold9 - 04-22-2016

Maengelito Wrote:This. All of this. Well, I don't have any experience on the dtc60s but if I remember, you're on the Bridgestone RE71s? That's a pretty aggressive tire, even for a street tire. Besides, you've got ABS...

So I can pick up DTC-60s cheaper than carbotechs by $50... :dunno:

Re: Project 2.Slow Mazda3 - navin - 04-22-2016

Do it.

Re: Project 2.Slow Mazda3 - Maengelito - 04-22-2016

rherold9 Wrote:So I can pick up DTC-60s cheaper than carbotechs by $50... :dunno:

I personally don't like Hawks very much based on my limited experience with them but others seem to like them a lot. I am a big fan of carbotech though. Either should be much better than street pads though.

Re: Project 2.Slow Mazda3 - rherold9 - 04-22-2016

Maengelito Wrote:
rherold9 Wrote:So I can pick up DTC-60s cheaper than carbotechs by $50... :dunno:

I personally don't like Hawks very much based on my limited experience with them but others seem to like them a lot. I am a big fan of carbotech though. Either should be much better than street pads though.


navin Wrote:Do it.

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Re: Project 2.Slow Mazda3 - Maengelito - 04-22-2016

Good.

Now lets talk ballast for Hyperfest. I'm thinking at least a half keg. Something good too.

Re: Project 2.Slow Mazda3 - rherold9 - 04-22-2016

Maengelito Wrote:Now lets talk ballast for Hyperfest. I'm thinking at least a half keg. Something good too.

:?: :?: :?:

Re: Project 2.Slow Mazda3 - *insertusernamehere* - 04-22-2016

rherold9 Wrote:
Maengelito Wrote:Now lets talk ballast for Hyperfest. I'm thinking at least a half keg. Something good too.

:?: :?: :?:
Better listen to your elders, son! They're preaching right now.

Re: Project 2.Slow Mazda3 - rherold9 - 04-22-2016

I'm 100% lost. Beer? Actual ballast for car?

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Re: Project 2.Slow Mazda3 - Senor_Taylor - 04-22-2016

Isn't it obvious? It's so obvious. Obviously, man. Come on!

Re: Project 2.Slow Mazda3 - rherold9 - 04-22-2016

Senor_Taylor Wrote:Isn't it obvious? It's so obvious. Obviously, man. Come on!
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Re: Project 2.Slow Mazda3 - Gordonovski - 04-22-2016

"I DON'T UNDERSTAND"

-Ryan, in my apartment right now

Re: Project 2.Slow Mazda3 - rherold9 - 04-22-2016

I mean if people help me swap rotors and pads of course I has beer.

By ballast you mean all the weight I'll gain from beer then true.

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Re: Project 2.Slow Mazda3 - *insertusernamehere* - 04-23-2016

omfg lmao

It's on now, Ryan. It's on now.

Re: Project 2.Slow Mazda3 - rherold9 - 04-25-2016

Sums up last weekend on the front straight:

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Actually got pretty annoying passing people in carousel then giving them the point-by on the straights. Need moar power and a nice diet.

Re: Project 2.Slow Mazda3 - rherold9 - 04-26-2016

Tire deformation/stretching through T7. Anyone know if this is a typical trait of newer tires to get more grip?

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Re: Project 2.Slow Mazda3 - ScottyB - 04-26-2016

that's what grippy tires do.

look at the front tire deflection on this ACR...
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go to :25 seconds in, start watching and check out the tire deflection in real time on this mustang...again, just the byproduct of a lot of grip.
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