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RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - Apoc - 02-18-2019

Yeeeeaaahhhh... post-war America is not proof of anything related to the economy... other than it's good not to fight the war at home.


RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - G.Irish - 02-18-2019

(02-18-2019, 03:30 PM)CaptainHenreh Wrote:
(02-18-2019, 03:26 PM)G.Irish Wrote: I mean if you wanna cherry pick 3-4 years out of 40+, be my guest.  Point is that the sky didn't fall, rich people didn't commit mass suicide (except for cocaine overdoses), and a lot of people point to that time period as 'when America was great'.

I don't think the top marginal rate needs to necessarily be that high, but it should be higher than it is now, and there needs to be a mass reduction in the amount of tax loopholes.  Maybe just burning it all down and going to FairTax is the answer but the current tax code is Swiss cheese.

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My point was more that period was the end of America being the only country that didn't have their economy literally bombed to death, and giant-ass tax rates didn't help when that gravy train ran out. 

Keynes was right, even if it's the part everyone forgets: You can maybe spend yourself out of bust as long as you save during the boom. 

Which, since no nation does, ends up just being a "Hey no problem we can spend our way to prosperity, yeehaw and cowabunga!"
That's a key point that is missing from how the modern GOP is approaching taxes. If you want to cut tax rates when the economy is down, great, that makes sense. But they continue to cut taxes when the economy is booming, particularly taxes on the wealthy, all while not cutting spending.

So when the next economic downturn inevitably arrives, there'll be even more tax cuts and it'll be a nitrous shot to the ballooning national debt.

Now some of that may be intentional in that if you drive debt up to the point that it's a crisis then you can say, 'we MUST get rid of social security, Medicare/Medicaid, welfare, etc.'

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Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - JPolen01 - 02-21-2019

I'm looking for tweets/statements from Republicans on their outrage about the factual voter fraud in North Carolina, but I haven't found any. Anyone seen anything? Bueller?


RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - WRXtranceformed - 02-22-2019

(02-21-2019, 08:32 PM)JPolen01 Wrote: I'm looking for tweets/statements from Republicans on their outrage about the factual voter fraud in North Carolina, but I haven't found any. Anyone seen anything? Bueller?

Where's the outrage on both sides?  Proven cases of voter fraud are not partisan


RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - JPolen01 - 02-22-2019

(02-22-2019, 07:10 AM)WRXtranceformed Wrote:
(02-21-2019, 08:32 PM)JPolen01 Wrote: I'm looking for tweets/statements from Republicans on their outrage about the factual voter fraud in North Carolina, but I haven't found any. Anyone seen anything? Bueller?

Where's the outrage on both sides?  Proven cases of voter fraud are not partisan

I'm fairly certain that Democrats had been pushing for an investigation into this and a new election since the beginning of this saga whereas Republicans were fine with the results and wanted to certify Mark Harris right away. 

Also Democrats do not continue to make up voter fraud conspiracies in order to attempt to suppress the vote. Dressing up in different outfits to vote twice in California? Millions and millions of people do this according to Trump. Republican conspiracy. Busing in loads of voters to New Hampshire to vote for Democrats? Republican (Stephen Miller) conspiracy.

Truth be told voter fraud is rare. But here we are with actual voter fraud on a grand scale by a Republican. Think we have heard any comments from Trump, Graham, or McConnell? Nope. McConnell is the same jackass that says we can't make election day a federal holiday because it is a 'power grab'. Lulz


RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - Jake - 02-22-2019

McConnell is a sad excuse of a human, on all counts.


RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - WRXtranceformed - 02-22-2019

(02-22-2019, 08:57 AM)JPolen01 Wrote:
(02-22-2019, 07:10 AM)WRXtranceformed Wrote:
(02-21-2019, 08:32 PM)JPolen01 Wrote: I'm looking for tweets/statements from Republicans on their outrage about the factual voter fraud in North Carolina, but I haven't found any. Anyone seen anything? Bueller?

Where's the outrage on both sides?  Proven cases of voter fraud are not partisan

I'm fairly certain that Democrats had been pushing for an investigation into this and a new election since the beginning of this saga whereas Republicans were fine with the results and wanted to certify Mark Harris right away. 

Also Democrats do not continue to make up voter fraud conspiracies in order to attempt to suppress the vote. Dressing up in different outfits to vote twice in California? Millions and millions of people do this according to Trump. Republican conspiracy. Busing in loads of voters to New Hampshire to vote for Democrats? Republican (Stephen Miller) conspiracy.

Truth be told voter fraud is rare. But here we are with actual voter fraud on a grand scale by a Republican. Think we have heard any comments from Trump, Graham, or McConnell? Nope. McConnell is the same jackass that says we can't make election day a federal holiday because it is a 'power grab'. Lulz

You didn't hear Patriots fans expressing outrage when their team and star quarterback got caught cheating multiple times, but here we are again having to watch that clown hoist another championship trophy and the Super Bowl MVP coming off a fresh PED suspension.  My point was, people rarely speak out against the home team when they're caught with their pants down (hence my point about both sides should be screaming for accountability for the overall elections process).  I'd also point out, according to the NYT Leslie Dowless apparently had been doing this ballot harvesting for years for candidates on both sides of the aisle, Democrats and Republicans.  He was in effect a political black ops mercenary.  I'm not disagreeing with you that parties should hold their own members accountable, I'm just saying that it needs to be bilateral.  There are sites where you can track known + prosecuted cases of voter fraud and as I said it's definitely not confined to one party.


RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - CaptainHenreh - 02-22-2019

(02-22-2019, 10:23 AM)Jake Wrote: McConnell is a sad excuse of a human, on all counts.

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RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - .RJ - 02-22-2019

(02-22-2019, 10:31 AM)WRXtranceformed Wrote: My point was, people rarely speak out against the home team when they're caught with their pants down (hence my point about both sides should be screaming for accountability for the overall elections process).

While is this true, team R has a long history of both pounding the table about voter fraud, while, actually creating fraudulent votes and suppressing/disenfranchising voters. And then we have the turtle saying that allowing a holiday for federal workers on election day is a "power grab" by democrats. GFY.

They have a long history of talking hard line stances on things and then enacting policies that perpetuates the issue. I guess you cant have the boogeyman if you dont keep the people scared about something.

In short, fuck the GOP.


RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - Apoc - 02-22-2019

When I read Polen's post yesterday, I was excited to see Lee's inevitable rebuttal.


RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - JPolen01 - 02-22-2019

(02-22-2019, 11:34 AM)Apoc Wrote: When I read Polen's post yesterday, I was excited to see Lee's inevitable rebuttal.

I'm just here to entertain.


RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - WRXtranceformed - 02-22-2019

(02-22-2019, 11:35 AM)JPolen01 Wrote:
(02-22-2019, 11:34 AM)Apoc Wrote: When I read Polen's post yesterday, I was excited to see Lee's inevitable rebuttal.

I'm just here to entertain.

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RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - Apoc - 02-22-2019

Also, Deflategate is a bad comparison because Pat's fans weren't accusing other teams for cheating millions of times and then got caught cheating themselves. There's a pretty big distinction, as RJ highlighted.


RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - WRXtranceformed - 02-22-2019

(02-22-2019, 11:51 AM)Apoc Wrote: Also, Deflategate is a bad comparison because Pat's fans weren't accusing other teams for cheating millions of times and then got caught cheating themselves. There's a pretty big distinction, as RJ highlighted.

You clearly never followed NFL Memes or Barstool comments Tongue


RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - .RJ - 02-22-2019

Also, sport != open attacks on one of the core foundations of our country


RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - WRXtranceformed - 02-22-2019

(02-22-2019, 12:03 PM).RJ Wrote: Also, sport != open attacks on one of the core foundations of our country

You shut your mouth and go sit in the corner Captain Tankless

Tongue


RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - .RJ - 02-22-2019

i lol @ captain tankless

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Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - G.Irish - 02-22-2019

Speaking of the Patriots...

https://deadspin.com/patriots-owner-bob-kraft-charged-with-soliciting-prosti-1832807440

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RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - Kaan - 02-22-2019

(02-22-2019, 01:27 PM)G.Irish Wrote: Speaking of the Patriots...

https://deadspin.com/patriots-owner-bob-kraft-charged-with-soliciting-prosti-1832807440

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lord have mercy ...


RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - WRXtranceformed - 02-22-2019

I just saw that hahaha.....everything about that organization is slimy. My favorite quote from the Deadspin comments:

"It’s f---ing hilarious to me that Bob Kraft is going to a $200 rub and tug in f---ing florida

like, cmon man, you’re rich as hell. I expect a better class of sex crime from you."