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Re: The Photography Thread - ispoonwithmugen - 05-25-2017

Ken Wrote:Oh, oops, had it backwards.

Speaking of aperture, getting confused with how it's used. When you say "high aperture" you mean high in reference to the value of the number right (in this case 20) - not the actual size of the aperture (since f/20 is actually a small physical size) right? So, high/low refers to value and large/small would refer to the physical size and is basically inverse of the value? Seems like people use each interchangeably.

Secondly - is it a good rule of thumb to try and guesstimate speed of the "target" in MPH and then halve that for shutter speed? So, say you're trying to get a bike assume it's going 16MPH and use shutter of 1/8?

Sorry, just trying to get a grasp on the basics.

Yeah. I mainly use F stops (instead of saying higher or lower) just to help understand better. Ironically the older generation uses high aperture to mean low fstop and the new generation switches it around. No idea why or how that happened but that's part of all of the confusion... Check this out:
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On the second point... no. That was relative to 100-200meters away on a sunny day on track. Handheld you'll be lucky to get a "stable" shot at 1/50. Some can and VR helps but I draw the line around 1/50. For a biker you'd probably be better off with a wide angle and 1/60th or so. It's been awhile since I shot one but I'd play around there.


SlimKlim Wrote:I don't want to speak for Garrett but I don't think his shutter speed math is broadly applicable. The distance between you and the subject is a big factor, as well as whatever apeture settings you're using. A shutter of 1/8s to get a shot of the guy on the bicycle would be almost impossible to get it crisp, just of the top of my head I think a 1/40-1/60s in that situation would still allow you to get the cool blurry background, assuming the 16mph bike is much closer to you than the 100mph race cars.

^Nope it's not. It's all relative and you hit it right on the head.

Here's some examples from a very cloudy day at Summit Point with a private group.
1/80 F6.3 ISO 100
[Image: Track_Day_14.jpg]
1/100 F11 ISO 100
[Image: Track_Day_34.jpg]
1/125 F6.3 ISO 100
[Image: Track_Day_58.jpg]
1/60 F7.1 ISO 100
[Image: Track_Day_89.jpg]
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Re: The Photography Thread - V1GiLaNtE - 06-15-2017

So getting back on the LR topic. How many of you guys pay for the adobe creative cloud? I really want just LR, but trying to buy just LR5 has come up empty handed.


Re: The Photography Thread - .RJ - 06-15-2017

V1GiLaNtE Wrote:So getting back on the LR topic. How many of you guys pay for the adobe creative cloud? I really want just LR, but trying to buy just LR5 has come up empty handed.

I bought the one-time install of LR6 for my Mac.

If I had to do it again, I would have bought the CC version. This is the way they are moving, accept it and get on the bandwagon, or find different software to use.


Re: The Photography Thread - RawrImAMonster - 06-15-2017

Adobe does a Photoshop CC + Lightroom photographer's special for 9.99 a month. That's what I have. It ends up being less than what it would cost to continually buy the new versions of these so it's not terrible.

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Re: The Photography Thread - Apoc - 06-15-2017

I hear software may or may not be available for free on the internet.


Re: The Photography Thread - SlimKlim - 06-15-2017

RawrImAMonster Wrote:Adobe does a Photoshop CC + Lightroom photographer's special for 9.99 a month. That's what I have. It ends up being less than what it would cost to continually buy the new versions of these so it's not terrible.

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I ended up just doing this too, but I haven't even installed PS, just LR.


Re: The Photography Thread - V1GiLaNtE - 06-15-2017

Apoc Wrote:I hear software may or may not be available for free on the internet.

Yeaaaaa.. I guess I'm inclined to pay for it.



Quote:Adobe does a Photoshop CC + Lightroom photographer's special for 9.99 a month. That's what I have. It ends up being less than what it would cost to continually buy the new versions of these so it's not terrible.

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That's what I was looking at purchasing.


Re: The Photography Thread - .RJ - 06-15-2017

Apoc Wrote:I hear software may or may not be available for free on the internet.

When you start paying for software you've become a grownup


Re: The Photography Thread - Apoc - 06-15-2017

Says the guy who has a media PC so he can torrent TV.


Re: The Photography Thread - .RJ - 06-15-2017

That's been dead for like 4 years


Re: The Photography Thread - ispoonwithmugen - 06-17-2017

V1GiLaNtE Wrote:So getting back on the LR topic. How many of you guys pay for the adobe creative cloud? I really want just LR, but trying to buy just LR5 has come up empty handed.

What everyone else has said before. I pay for the big one but that's because I use the video aspects every once in a while. You'd be fine with the $9.99 per month photography one. If you wait till cyber monday they almost always cut the deals by 50%. I was paying $20 per month for the full setup and the photography was $4.99.


Re: The Photography Thread - ScottyB - 06-17-2017

don't forget, i think Adobe still does student and educator discounts. if you just graduated, find someone who's still in school to get it for you because its like half off i think....