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Re: You know what really grinds my gears?! - G.Irish - 11-30-2016
I think it's because some people just don't absorb information very well or were simply not paying attention. It drives me fucking nuts when I'm in meetings with people like that. I'll explain some shit, then someone asks a question that requires me to say the exact same thing again. Or worse, they ask a question that shows that they totally misunderstood what I just told them.
"We need to deploy on the weekend because the export process will take several hours and we wouldn't be able to do that during the week without disrupting customer access to the system"
"So we can deploy this on Wednesday right?"
:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
I had a manager who among other things, regularly needed to be corrected multiple times because of stuff like this. I eventually told me company I would quit because of him unless I got a 20% raise.
Re: You know what really grinds my gears?! - WRXtranceformed - 11-30-2016
G.Irish Wrote:I had a manager who among other things, regularly needed to be corrected multiple times because of stuff like this. I eventually told me company I would quit because of him unless I got a 20% raise.Hahaha that is epic! :lol: :lol: Did they give you the raise or did they think you were just kidding?
The worst is when they are not even clarification or misunderstanding questions, which I can at least somewhat understand. It's when they are asinine questions.
Lady: "What international datasets can you provide through an API?"
Me: begins to list the available countries
Lady: in the middle of my response "BRAZIL? WHY BRAZIL?"
Me: .............."Why not Brazil? They have excellent organized labor market data"
Lady: "Oh....."
:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
Re: You know what really grinds my gears?! - G.Irish - 11-30-2016
WRXtranceformed Wrote:I got the raise. Having to explain things to him multiple times wasn't so much the issue that had me at the end of my rope, it was that he was a dishonest bastard who would throw anyone under the bus and lie to the customer. But I got a big pay bump out of it, so there's that.G.Irish Wrote:I had a manager who among other things, regularly needed to be corrected multiple times because of stuff like this. I eventually told me company I would quit because of him unless I got a 20% raise.Hahaha that is epic! :lol: :lol: Did they give you the raise or did they think you were just kidding?
Quote:Lady: "What international datasets can you provide through an API?"Wow. I hate when people interrupt when you're answering their damned question. But to interrupt with something stupid like that is...
Me: begins to list the available countries
Lady: in the middle of my response "BRAZIL? WHY BRAZIL?"
Me: .............."Why not Brazil? They have excellent organized labor market data"
Lady: "Oh....."
:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Re: You know what really grinds my gears?! - ScottyB - 11-30-2016
i think part of it is just common, general-use lack of manners too. some people come from an upbringing or industry where a "conversation" is just shouting over each other or cutting each other off to get whatever thing they want to hear to come out first, because their stream of conscious totally overrides their sense of tact. there may be a subconscious power aspect to that as well but in the end its just people being complete meatheads instead of considerate.
G.Irish Wrote:I eventually told me company I would quit because of him unless I got a 20% raise.
like a freakin boss :thumbup:
Re: You know what really grinds my gears?! - WRXtranceformed - 11-30-2016
ScottyB Wrote:i think part of it is just common, general-use lack of manners too. some people come from an upbringing or industry where a "conversation" is just shouting over each other or cutting each other off to get whatever thing they want to hear to come out first, because their stream of conscious totally overrides their sense of tact. there may be a subconscious power aspect to that as well but in the end its just people being complete meatheads instead of considerate.
G.Irish Wrote:I eventually told me company I would quit because of him unless I got a 20% raise.
like a freakin boss :thumbup:
Agreed on all counts!
And yeah that's gangster AF Gerald :thumbup:
Re: You know what really grinds my gears?! - .RJ - 11-30-2016
WRXtranceformed Wrote:People who interrupt you on business calls, especially when you are in the middle of answering a question that either they or their colleague just asked you.
That's because they werent really paying attention in the first place. Its a plague at the place I'm working at now.
Is there a webex? No, get off your ass and come over here and participate.
Re: You know what really grinds my gears?! - Apoc - 11-30-2016
People who drive vehicles larger than their ability to effectively navigate them in a parking garage.
Re: You know what really grinds my gears?! - RawrImAMonster - 12-02-2016
This new simplistic UI design that's present in everything from iOS 10's icons to Windows 10's whole UI to the new simplistic emojis. It seems like everything is moving to flat colors and if anything it's harder to distinguish boundaries between different UI elements than it used to be. I vastly prefer the windows 7 UI style over Windows 10.
I'm ready for the next UI trend please.
Re: You know what really grinds my gears?! - BLINGMW - 12-02-2016
RawrImAMonster Wrote:I'm ready for the next UI trend please.Yes x100
enough gray on gray low contrast unreadable crap
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Re: You know what really grinds my gears?! - SlimKlim - 12-02-2016
The low-contrast stuff is just plain bad design but I sort of like the minimalist trend. I'll take it any day over the old Web 2.0 trend. SHINY 3D THINGS EVERYWHERE.
Re: You know what really grinds my gears?! - ScottyB - 12-02-2016
BLINGMW Wrote:RawrImAMonster Wrote:I'm ready for the next UI trend please.Yes x100
enough gray on gray low contrast unreadable crap
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UI design can be so weird. you get a massive library of symbols and structure guidelines built painstakingly to make everything work harmoniously across a bunch of different display systems, then at the last minute some designer dingdong swoops in and renders it all almost illegible with a couple stupid color choices all for appearance sake.
source: am a design dingdong, see this too much all over the place
Re: You know what really grinds my gears?! - Senor_Taylor - 12-02-2016
SlimKlim Wrote:The low-contrast stuff is just plain bad design but I sort of like the minimalist trend. I'll take it any day over the old Web 2.0 trend. SHINY 3D THINGS EVERYWHERE.<marquee><blink>What are you talking about?</blink></marquee>
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Re: You know what really grinds my gears?! - RawrImAMonster - 12-02-2016
That one's just a bit older than web 2.0.
Re: You know what really grinds my gears?! - SlimKlim - 12-02-2016
Yeah the flashing banners are more from the Geocities era.
Web 2.0 was when we decided to make everything needlessly heavy and as intricately designed as possible, depite the fact it was still 2006 and most of the country still had a connection measured in Kbps. Transparent overlays, dark colors, tons of textures and glossiness and trying to make it look as different from print media as possible.
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The term also defines when social media really started to get a foothold, when SEO became a buzzword, and when p2p sharing started to get really huge, and was also probably around the time that high school teachers gave up on harping against Wikipedia. It's also when reddit was born.
So it brought a lot of the functionality we consider a fundamental part of the modern internet, but the design was ahead of itself in a bad way. We got fixated on making the bitchinest pages we possible could, forgetting that most of our audience would have trouble loading a high resolution background photo on each page. Varying screen size was only just starting to be a concern, which is why "responsive design" became the next buzzword circa 2010, when we actually started to think about how to present information quickly across all devices.
Re: You know what really grinds my gears?! - Senor_Taylor - 12-02-2016
Thanks for the history lesson, Joey!
Re: You know what really grinds my gears?! - SlimKlim - 12-02-2016
Senor_Taylor Wrote:Thanks for the history lesson, Joey!
:thumbup: I knew a major with a concentration in "Online Publications" would pay off one of these days!
Re: You know what really grinds my gears?! - WRXtranceformed - 12-07-2016
Maybe just another sales-related gripe here, but when people ask you to build an integrated, visualized component that doesn't technically exist yet into a custom software platform that was already built for them by another company. And then are anxious about the time it takes to scope / price it, and then aren't willing to share what budget they can allocate to it. Really? So you're going to ask a company to build something that isn't an off the shelf product, and you aren't willing to at least offer up a range that you can invest in it so that time is not mutually wasted on both sides (with sales, engineering teams, client side, etc.)? I have a feeling Gerald feels me on this per some of the conversations we have had in the past.
I mean come on, I get holding your cards a little close to your chest if you're negotiating on a used car lot or something but we are talking about corporate budgets here. You know it's going to be expensive by nature and yet all you offer up is that you want to spend "as little as possible". It's an annoying part of the job when you have to go through a long song and dance for a customer that mostly likely will end up balking at the price anyway.
Re: You know what really grinds my gears?! - Ken - 12-07-2016
WRXtranceformed Wrote:Maybe just another sales-related gripe here, but when people ask you to build an integrated, visualized component that doesn't technically exist yet into a custom software platform that was already built for them by another company. And then are anxious about the time it takes to scope / price it, and then aren't willing to share what budget they can allocate to it. Really? So you're going to ask a company to build something that isn't an off the shelf product, and you aren't willing to at least offer up a range that you can invest in it so that time is not mutually wasted on both sides (with sales, engineering teams, client side, etc.)? I have a feeling Gerald feels me on this per some of the conversations we have had in the past.
I mean come on, I get holding your cards a little close to your chest if you're negotiating on a used car lot or something but we are talking about corporate budgets here. You know it's going to be expensive by nature and yet all you offer up is that you want to spend "as little as possible". It's an annoying part of the job when you have to go through a long song and dance for a customer that mostly likely will end up balking at the price anyway.
Oh, God, this. Except i deal with it on the hardware front.
Re: You know what really grinds my gears?! - JPolen01 - 12-07-2016
That's a very specific gripe. This thread delivers.
Re: You know what really grinds my gears?! - ScottyB - 12-07-2016
those are the customers you estimate double the normal cost on, just on principle alone.
if they pass on your estimate (which they will, because we know what "little as possible" means *cough* overseas *cough*), you didn't want them anyway. if they accept, you guys get paid the proper amount for the commensurate pain in the ass that they'll inevitably cause to your life, for a long time.
i get when a client haggles or wants a reasonable value compared to your initial offering, but people racing to the bottom usually always get what they deserve