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Re: Project: Integra Type Dickbutt - Kaan - 12-16-2015
So after the new TT rules have come out... i'm not hurt. the Js (RJ and DJ) keep wanting me to maximize points... i get it. It might cost me $$$ to get there, and i still need a trailer... but ehhh whatever.
I'd have to send the konis out for a rebuild to take higher spring rates (dropping +2 swaybars and +3 subframe brace) and dropping the intake... leaves me 8 points... if i got with RJ that brings down the minimum weight to 2515 (-110). I'm not sure 110lbs is worth the money lol... i could also just drop 65lbs and do a complete trans swap (current plan is to do a FD and LSD). to drop the swaybar i need to order a new full swaybar setup... the one i pulled off the car was rusted to shit and back.
totals out to 31 points with 8 points to spend...
+7 honda penalty
A3 + 10 Hoohoo R7
A10 -1 for 205 tires instead of base class 215
C22 +5 header/cat/exhaust
D3 +3 LSD
E3 +3 Koni
E5 +2 GC
E1 +2 ITR Brakes
Re: Project: Integra Type Dickbutt - rherold9 - 12-16-2015
Make sure to check your adjusted W/P. Just checked mine and it's 20.49 which puts me competitive in TTF not TTE. So I got to change my points around
Re: Project: Integra Type Dickbutt - .RJ - 12-16-2015
Points for a subframe brace? take that thing out and dont use a bar that binds and bends up your chassis.
Re: Project: Integra Type Dickbutt - Kaan - 12-16-2015
you have to spend a lot of points to make enough power to get you near the P:W... and considering the weight of the Integra was beefed up last year or a couple of years ago... its a pipe dream to worry about P:W
Re: Project: Integra Type Dickbutt - Kaan - 12-16-2015
.RJ Wrote:Points for a subframe brace? take that thing out and dont use a bar that binds and bends up your chassis.
stock bar + upgraded konis + increased rear spring rates = loss of swaybar points and subframe points.
from what i read, the stock ITR bar will rip the subframe of a non ITR integra....
Re: Project: Integra Type Dickbutt - .RJ - 12-16-2015
Kaan Wrote:from what i read, the stock ITR bar will rip the subframe of a non ITR integra....
Untrue. Find a 23mm bar, should be cheap/easy.
Re: Project: Integra Type Dickbutt - Kaan - 12-16-2015
.RJ Wrote:Kaan Wrote:from what i read, the stock ITR bar will rip the subframe of a non ITR integra....
Untrue. Find a 23mm bar, should be cheap/easy.
so that would still "make me" take the +2 points for the swaybar. My waffling comes from is the 110lbs worth more than the "easy button" suspension tuning.
Re: Project: Integra Type Dickbutt - Kaan - 12-16-2015
whos going to crawl under my integra and tell me for a fact its not the "factory" swaybar?
Re: Project: Integra Type Dickbutt - D_Eclipse9916 - 12-16-2015
Kaan Wrote:whos going to crawl under my integra and tell me for a fact its not the "factory" swaybar?
At 2011 Nationals I had my car "gone through" 3 times including crawling under the car.
Re: Project: Integra Type Dickbutt - Kaan - 12-16-2015
I have a feeling that if I have a brand new "stock" bar or brand new "factory" bar I'm going to get harassed
Re: Project: Integra Type Dickbutt - Kaan - 12-17-2015
okay so the RJ suggest 23mm bar is significantly larger than the factory 14mm bar lol. I can get a completely ALL NEW honda 14mm bar for $150. the 23mm bar i can get for about $250. I guess i should keep the car legal... /sigh
I'll make more decisions after christmas, after a dyno pull with the stock intake arm (with heat shield), and after the transmission gets dropped out and "serviced."
Re: Project: Integra Type Dickbutt - navin - 12-17-2015
RJ, what rear bar did you have on the old h4 integra...? Because the subframe is going to most likely tear if Kaan runs a 22/23 rear bar + no reinforcement. I'd think even more likely with the Hoosiers...
If you want to do it sneaky sneak, find an itr subframe and replace the RS one with that... because if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying hard enough.
edit - and still keeping the itr front brakes? ditch em and gain the points back, i have some stock GSR calipers at my parents house I think.
Re: Project: Integra Type Dickbutt - Jake - 12-17-2015
navin Wrote:If you want to do it sneaky sneak, find an itr subframe and replace the RS one with that... because if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying hard enough.
I'd rather legitimately earn the times I turn, but... okay.
Re: Project: Integra Type Dickbutt - Kaan - 12-17-2015
i still have my stock calipers too. I've also thought about replacing the rear subframe with the ITR subframe... but without a pro doing it, its going to be easy to spot. giving up my brakes would give me enough points to get down to 2485lbs. we shall see what the dyno says.
Re: Project: Integra Type Dickbutt - Kaan - 12-17-2015
Jake Wrote:navin Wrote:If you want to do it sneaky sneak, find an itr subframe and replace the RS one with that... because if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying hard enough.
I'd rather legitimately earn the times I turn, but... okay.
it would be too easy for me to cheat because i know what can be caught and what cant. but i also want to run legalls... for several reasons.
1. I'm a former Chief of Tech, seems like bad form
2. I'm friends with the current Chiefs and I don't want to put myself in a bad spot with them.
3. Morally i'll push the rules but i'm not going to cross the line... i'd prefer to be max prepped.
4. the non vtec 3rd gen integra has had enough cheating TT drivers that its gotten a big bad handicap... why add to it?
Re: Project: Integra Type Dickbutt - navin - 12-17-2015
Jake Wrote:I'd rather legitimately earn the times I turn, but... okay.
but, but... the plastic trophy and $5 champange bottle... whatever it takes to win that!
Kaan Wrote:it would be too easy for me to cheat because i know what can be caught and what cant. but i also want to run legalls... for several reasons.
1. I'm a former Chief of Tech, seems like bad form
2. I'm friends with the current Chiefs and I don't want to put myself in a bad spot with them.
3. Morally i'll push the rules but i'm not going to cross the line... i'd prefer to be max prepped.
4. the non vtec 3rd gen integra has had enough cheating TT drivers that its gotten a big bad handicap... why add to it?
I wonder if I can volunteer to do inspections for the Honda only TT car's... cant pull a fast one on me Kaan :lol:
I think you should drive the car on the Hoosiers and start from there, and not even worry about the rear sway bar. Does disconnecting a front bar cost you any points?
Re: Project: Integra Type Dickbutt - Kaan - 12-17-2015
lol yes, if you disconnect you have to take the 2 points. "add, replace, remove..."
the fast ones i would pull would only get caught if i told you. looking at my car isnt going to do it.
Re: Project: Integra Type Dickbutt - D_Eclipse9916 - 12-17-2015
Kaan Wrote:the fast ones i would pull would only get caught if i told you. looking at my car isnt going to do it.
Why is it only the guys that "dont run" always say this? :wink:
You cheat once, you will forever be labelled a cheater no matter if you make it legal or not. We are all supposed to have fun out here, and typically the cheaters are not the ones hanging out and having fun. :thumbup:
Re: Project: Integra Type Dickbutt - Kaan - 12-17-2015
D_Eclipse9916 Wrote:Kaan Wrote:the fast ones i would pull would only get caught if i told you. looking at my car isnt going to do it.
Why is it only the guys that "dont run" always say this? :wink:
how many people that "dont run" spent 12 years in the tech shed? :bootyshake:
Re: Project: Integra Type Dickbutt - rherold9 - 12-17-2015
You know you hit a low point in life when you decide to cheat in amateur racing. That's just sad.
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