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Re: Das Pace: My '97 M3/4/5 - Jake - 07-28-2016
rherold9 Wrote:Have I missed your future plans with this?
Are you planning GTS, ST, or?
Any time frame?
Probably GT$ but not sure yet. Next year for comp school.
Re: Das Pace: My '97 M3/4/5 - rherold9 - 07-28-2016
Jake Wrote:Probably GT$ but not sure yet. Next year for comp school.
:thumbup: noice, GT$2? I know it's expensive for race car so saving up is key. So, GTS involves aero, power, ??
Re: Das Pace: My '97 M3/4/5 - D_Eclipse9916 - 07-28-2016
rherold9 Wrote:Jake Wrote:Probably GT$ but not sure yet. Next year for comp school.
:thumbup: noice, GT$2? I know it's expensive for race car so saving up is key. So, GTS involves aero, power, ??
The difference between his car and GTS2 is aero (wing and splitter) and differential. GTS2 is a lot cheaper than people realize since its stock motor, just suspension/aero/diff.
Re: Das Pace: My '97 M3/4/5 - rherold9 - 07-28-2016
That's not too bad at all then. Well I guess tires that wider than 225 or not? more power like header, exhaust, tune?
Re: Das Pace: My '97 M3/4/5 - Jake - 07-28-2016
I think 245 or 255 tires would be the go-to.
I can do full exhuast (my car is already tuned) but regardless, the class is power:weight and I'll have to throw a restrictor plate on the throttle body.
Re: Das Pace: My '97 M3/4/5 - D_Eclipse9916 - 07-28-2016
rherold9 Wrote:That's not too bad at all then. Well I guess tires that wider than 225 or not? more power like header, exhaust, tune?
You could....and then spend $75 on restrictor plates to get you back where it dynos stock. :lol:
His stock set of 17x8.5s are wide enough for the 245 hoosiers/BFGs everyone runs.
Re: Das Pace: My '97 M3/4/5 - Jake - 07-28-2016
D_Eclipse9916 Wrote:rherold9 Wrote:That's not too bad at all then. Well I guess tires that wider than 225 or not? more power like header, exhaust, tune?
You could....and then spend $75 on restrictor plates to get you back where it dynos stock. :lol:
His stock set of 17x8.5s are wide enough for the 245 hoosiers/BFGs everyone runs.
The wheels coming tomorrow are 17x9
More than enough wheel for the tire.
Re: Das Pace: My '97 M3/4/5 - rherold9 - 07-28-2016
Alright, let's get down to the real question. Are they pretty and how much do they weigh?
Re: Das Pace: My '97 M3/4/5 - Jake - 10-11-2016
Man, I've neglected this thread. Life got in the way, I guess. The wheels I bought were Apex ARC-8, 17x9, et 42. Yay, welcome to the Apex party.
I missed a writeup from the August VIR event and from Dub Deliverance. Short story is that both events were fine, VIR saw me set a new personal best of a high 2:15 using the new Apex wheels and Hankook C51 tires (which Jeff Curtis says are equivalent to a Hoosier R6). I skipped the NASA East Coast Championships this year because dealing with the loss of my roommate/friend and having to move out of the blue really meant my time and money needed to be focused elsewhere.
With that...
October 2016 - VIR
I had been facing an odd issue with my trailer ever since I got run off the side of I-95 back in what, March of this year. The truck would alternate between saying "Trailer Connected" and "Trailer Disconnected" as I drove. All the trailer lights worked fine but the "Connected" message relies on the truck being able to connect to the trailer brakes. It would always work if I brushed the brake pedal, so I brushed it off as a wiring quirk and figured I'd check the wiring later. Unfortunately, "later" ended up being "right as I wanted to leave for VIR." The truck just kept alternating between the two messages while it sat idle.
I checked the trailer wiring and found some wiring issues with the brakes, which I fixed. Message still was coming up. I fiddled with the wiring harness that hooks to the truck and it stopped. Turns out there was an internal short/break in the wiring. Thankfully, when Paul sold me the trailer, he included a spare harness. So, a quick twist-and-tape job had the harness replaced for the trip. I'll solder things up here soon.
All of this had me leave about 50 minutes behind schedule, thankfully traffic was light and I made it to VIR by 7:15 PM, just in time for the rain to set in. I unloaded in the rain and wandered over to Chris and Mark's garage to hide out until everyone else showed up.
Saturday
We woke up to rain. Lots of it. I had my RS3 summer tires on the car but was pretty nervous about going out as this was a LOT of water to deal with. I skipped the 9:30 warm-up session and decided I would only run one green lap of one timed session, for the sake of getting a time on the board for the day and earning some points for the season. With only three of us in class, even a third place finish with an awful time would be better than nothing.
The tires were awful and the track conditions sucked. I could barely manage 65 mph on the straightaways as the car started hydroplaning. After a very gentle, very slow green lap, I parked it. My 3 minute, 54 second lap time still counted for something as I took third place behind Matthew in his RX8 and Packer in his blue M3.
I spent the rest of the day pacing and helping on grid. We used my F150 as a pace truck as the full-tread Dueler H/L's would let it go "full speed" and Aaron's Celica was facing similar issues to my M3 given the tire selection and age. Lap speeds were not fast enough that pacing in a pickup truck was a dangerous proposition, and I had fun hitting puddles trying to splash DJ and Wonger on the out laps
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Watching the races from my spot in the South Paddock (they had a pace car sit there for easier deployment, should we be needed) was amusing. Lots of offs and thankfully not too much actual carnage.
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Sunday
I came to VIR this weekend with the goal of beating down my 2:15 lap time (which was a 2-second personal best in August), as in August I briefly saw a 2:14.xx predicted lap appear on my AIM and promptly threw it away as I blew it at T17. So, with Saturday as a throwaway, I figured Sunday was my chance to nab that 14 for the year.
We woke up to sunny skies and a mostly-dry track. I threw the Apex wheels on, ready for battle. Unfortunately the car had other ideas and during my first session, it was apparent that I had a big misfire problem. The Check Engine light is burnt out and my OBD port was dead, so I had to figure things out on my own.
Quick pulling of the coils revealed water in the spark plug hole for Cylinder 6, which has happened before in heavy rain. I had the car under my Ez-up but I guess the rain coming from all angles still led to that problem rearing its head again. No matter, I blew the water out and went out for the second session. And... STILL no power. Balls. Ran a 2:24 which was so far off the pace. I came in very frustrated but had some time to diagnose.
First, had to get the OBD port working, which was thankfully just a blown fuse. With that back online, my scanner showed a code for the cam position sensor and an O2 sensor. Well, an O2 wouldn't cause it to be that down on power so CAS it is. I didn't have a spare, but DJ happened to have one in his trailer, even though his last S52-powered car was sold over a year ago... just my luck!
Maeng stepped in to help swap the sensor, which is thankfully an easy job at the front of the motor. With minutes to spare, I shut the hood and ran to grid. On the pace lap, it felt like power was back, which had me feeling good. I pushed a bit and ended the session with a 2:15.0 which would put me in 1st place for the day, ahead of Packer and Matthew. I was feeling good, but that 14 was still within sight.
An encouraging text from Packer (something along the lines of "my shock is blown, I'm out, go get that fucking 14!!!") gave me some motivation for my last Sunday session at 4 PM. Michele Hylton was behind me on grid and asked how I was suddenly going faster... my answer was just "more gas, less brake" and I mentioned I was gunning for even more speed this time. She was kind enough to hang back on the pace lap, so as to not run up on my ass on the first couple laps. I pushed and pushed and pushed and finally saw that "14" as I glanced at my AIM screen on the front straight. A quick fist-pump out the window and I lifted throttle to get her by and let her get a few laps in, on the off chance she was holding back for my sake.
Well, I got right back on the throttle after she went by and pulled another 14 after that! I took the checkered flag feeling good and a check of the results confirmed it - 2:14.67!! Solid placement in the 14s and an easy margin to win TTD for the day. Very, very pleased with how I did and that leaves me very pumped for Dominion and Summit to close out the season!
I was also using my truck to pace a few times on Sunday. It was far more scary/fun in the dry:
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M3 photos and video coming soon.
I have a spare O2 sensor, so I'll be swapping that before Dominion. Beyond that, I just have to start figuring out my off-season plans to prep the car and myself for comp school in the spring. Have a few more safety items to add in, and want to do bushings in the rear to ensure it's solid.
All tucked in to her new garage at my apartment:
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Re: Das Pace: My '97 M3/4/5 - JPolen01 - 10-11-2016
Way to go Jake! Love seeing the updates especially when you're picking up speed.
Re: Das Pace: My '97 M3/4/5 - *insertusernamehere* - 10-11-2016
Bro. That garage is spacious as heck. Nice. And yay for laptimes and easy fixes.
Re: Das Pace: My '97 M3/4/5 - Jake - 10-18-2016
Photos from VIR are up:
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Re: Das Pace: My '97 M3/4/5 - BLINGMW - 10-18-2016
Jake Wrote:We used my F150 as a pace truck as the full-tread Dueler H/L's would let it go "full speed"At some point of heavy enough rain would the truck turn faster laps than your track car?
Re: Das Pace: My '97 M3/4/5 - Jake - 10-18-2016
BLINGMW Wrote:I suspect it may have been able to, had I thrown a transponder on it that Saturday. The only limitation would have been the 95 mph limiter on the back straight.Jake Wrote:We used my F150 as a pace truck as the full-tread Dueler H/L's would let it go "full speed"At some point of heavy enough rain would the truck turn faster laps than your track car?
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Re: Das Pace: My '97 M3/4/5 - JPolen01 - 10-18-2016
95? Not even 10mph? That's pretty weak.
Re: Das Pace: My '97 M3/4/5 - Jake - 10-19-2016
JPolen01 Wrote:95? Not even 10mph? That's pretty weak.
When FlimFlam tunes it, he said we can set the limiter to "wrap back around to 0" if we want. Frankly, I wouldn't want to go much faster than 95 in it.
My Denali was allegedly governed to 98, but I once ended up in Mexico on I-95 and got it up to an indicated ~108. Got scared and shut it down as it was suuuuper floaty.
Re: Das Pace: My '97 M3/4/5 - JPolen01 - 10-19-2016
Oh yeah I'm not saying you ever need to go that fast. I was once in a Dodge ram with the hemi 6-7 years ago that hit 120 before the limiter popped.
Re: Das Pace: My '97 M3/4/5 - Senor_Taylor - 10-19-2016
Yeah I've never heard of a limiter below 100. Unfortunately, my truck is limited to 111. I wish it was 95 :/
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Re: Das Pace: My '97 M3/4/5 - SlimKlim - 10-19-2016
At least you have an ace up your sleeve in future games of "Never Have I Ever"
Re: Das Pace: My '97 M3/4/5 - ScottyB - 10-19-2016
Jake Wrote:
always love seeing those 3 series hiking up the front wheel when the grip is good. nice work man! tough break with the conditions but its all about perseverance.