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Cars that get you all hot and bothered - Printable Version

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- Goodspeed - 04-03-2008

Hoo boy, I have a lot of pent-up H & B'd I need to purge....

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- WRXtranceformed - 04-05-2008

ScottyB Wrote:giggity:
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- Goodspeed - 04-10-2008

Wow, that is now pretty much my favorite Corvette ever. Not sure how I feel about the red on the wheels, but sinister none the less. Now I just need a black on black on black x infinity 'Vette.

Oh....lord......993.

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- Maengelito - 04-11-2008

993=sex


- WRXtranceformed - 04-19-2008

2008 D3 Cadillac CTS. Me rikey except for the wheels!

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- balactm - 04-20-2008

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and i have to agree with the cts....gorgeous


- Goodspeed - 05-23-2008

9ff-tuned 993 Turbo

Modern cars have evolved to such a point that delicacies and nuances of handling get lost in an ocean of grip. To actually have fun in a new Porsche 911 and overcome the slabs of rubber that pass for rear tyres you need to drive at speeds that normally attract a helicopter escort.

An abundance of older cars now on the road, too, thanks to the magic of galvanised steel that resists the onset of rust, the classic car scene has never been stronger and sports car fans that really want to enjoy themselves are often picking up the specialist press rather than the latest brochure.

With all the money theyÔÇÖve saved paying for the salesmanÔÇÖs hair gel, and the kind of depreciation that only the US dollar can understand, theyÔÇÖre taking their new old toy to the tuners, too. And that can result in real monsters, like this Porsche 993 Turbo with a simply mental 600bhp.

Jan Fatthauer made his name with the headline-grabbing Vf400 and followed up with the GT9, which should be the fastest production car in the world soon enough as soon as he can find the right track on the right day and breeze through the 258mph mark. But a visit to his mighty Dortmund workshop reveals a collection of 996s, a 944 Twin Turbo and even a GT2-powered classic camper van. The public face of the company does not convey the sheer madness of the projects behind closed doors.

It often starts with a simple restoration for a valued customer, but when youre dealing with a man who has created an 1100bhp 911 Turbo Cabriolet then a few tweaks are inevitable. Blessed with hindsight Jan can improve upon the originals and then just keep going to an inordinate, dangerous level. As he has here

Because a simple shove on the throttle elicited the kind of fearsome response you might expect from walking up to a sleeping lion and kicking it squarely in the testicles. Even the most savage modern car sounds smooth, honed, tuned, this thing sounded like it was firing nails through the block and would probably bite your face off in a bar fight.

There are whole forums devoted the air-cooled vs water-cooled 911 debate and this, the 993, was the last of those regulated by simple cold air. That means itÔÇÖs about as refined as a Tasmanian Devil and has a deep growl that is somehow more dangerous than anything we could come up with today.

Then there was the open road, a set path that 9ff describes as its ÔÇ£test routeÔÇØ. In fact itÔÇÖs the road next to the airport, a place I have wiled away many an afternoon in deep discussion with the local police about what constitutes a safe speed. In a car like this, another little chat seemed more than inevitable.

Because although the Turbo remains eminently drivable and simple beneath 4000rpm, with just the long throw of the gearshift, the stiff pedals, the gruff bark from the Flat Six and the funky dials to remind that this is a throwback to olden days, it goes absolutely, window-licking mental in the final 2000rpm.

This is where it all happens and I had to grab the next gear fast and hard to avoid running out of revs as the car blasted through the 60mph mark in around 4.5s and on to a top speed in excess of 175mph. You can get faster with a modern 997 Turbo, but it wonÔÇÖt have nearly the sense of occasion and with no traction control or major electronic safety nets.

After fitting the GT2-style bodykit and refurbing the BBS period-look wheels, FatthauerÔÇÖs boys retrimmed the sports seats and set about producing a perfect yet authentic interior. It truly looks the part and while itÔÇÖs neither a perfect GT2 or Turbo, but a hybrid of the pair, only a true expert, or anorak, would care about such things.

Inside itÔÇÖs a beautiful dissertation in 90s design, with bright orange needles playing freely round the backlit dials and chunky plastics that were the peak of automotive couture just a decade ago but wouldnÔÇÖt make it past the drawing board at Tata right now. Even the key, a bog-standard, unblippable metal cylinder reminds us just how far cars have come.

Of course if they opened the engine cover they would probably run for the hills, as the Flat Six Twin Turbo is now completely invisible thanks to the intrusion of an epic, simply stupid intercooler that is as big as Physics allows and runs right to all four corners of the bay. Obviously cooling was an issue when they tuned this mid-90s powerplant to the max and lowering the charge pressure was just about the hardest step in a car that relied on simple, cold air to stop the engine melting.

From there itÔÇÖs the usual story of new pistons, air intake, sports exhaust and the usual accoutrements that go with a big power conversion. And that results in the kind of horsepower figures that would have the international press drooling all over FerrariÔÇÖs stand at Geneva, in a car that hit the market in 1995. But the power is only half the story, itÔÇÖs the way itÔÇÖs delivered that sells the whole classic car market and when a tuner with the balls-out approach of 9ff gets involved then the character can go to a whole new, dangerous level.

And 9ff fitted its own fully adjustable suspension kit to the car, which at 1500kg isnÔÇÖt much lighter than its modern counterparts but still manages to give that pin-sharp feeling thanks to a lack of power assistance and smaller dimensions than the relatively huge 997. A lack of feel is the problem in a modern car, thanks to a combination of monster tyres and electronic interference, but thereÔÇÖs none of that here. The car takes an armful of muscle to throw in, but the wheel feels connected to those alloys in a way that most of us could never imagine.

It might not be as fast as the modern equivalent and in this state of tune it costs about the same, but I climbed out the 993 with a big smile and a healthier respect of what could be achieved with cars from years gone by. For those with the luxury of choice, a modified classic is an interesting proposition.

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- Goodspeed - 05-24-2008

More Garage that gets me all H&B'ed....a doctor from Kentucky:

360CS
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This guy wins at life.


- ScottyB - 05-24-2008

no self respecting rich car guy has a collection without an F40. i approve Tongue


- D_Eclipse9916 - 05-27-2008

ScottyB Wrote:no self respecting rich car guy has a collection without an F40. i approve Tongue

fail needs a dsm, but it has toi be brokern to be right.


- Evan - 05-28-2008

I was instructing at a DE at mid-ohio over memorial day and saw some serious hardware worth mentioning

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I didnt get any action shots since he was in my run group. I was faster in the corners actually, but on the straights the engine sounded glorious. Like satan's dogs barking 8,000 times a minute.


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race prepped M5. cage, slicks, big brakes. normally these types of cars dont impress me much but this one was very cool and very well done.
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- DavidL - 05-29-2008

Damn that stuff gets around the net fast. That guy in KY is on ferrarichat and posts up all the time, he just got the F-50 so he was doing a garage shoot. Amazing collection...


- Jeff - 05-30-2008

Doesn't really get me hot and bothered, but I stumbled upon it while searching for something else. If I die young it is MM's responsibility to make sure my final wishes are known...I want a ride in this.

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- ScottyB - 05-30-2008

America, f yeah

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- Goodspeed - 05-31-2008

ScottyB Wrote:America, f yeah

Ok, because you said this, and because Jeff told me to.

True Life Stories: A Domestic Occurence
By David Goodspeed


I was driving home from work; it was about 9:30 and the town was dead. Hours of boredom past, nothing could awake me from the calm and usual that is my drive home. Windows down, radio playing, the cool night air being inhaled by both man and machine. Destiny awaits.

I turn the corner, red light ahead. I see something pull out to the light, out of the Texaco on my left. What it was I couldn't see, it was black as the night, obsidian, ominous. It was old, I could tell. The glint of a "SS" badge pierces my curiosity dead.

And there it was. Slowing well ahead of the black SS, something catches my left eye, something low slung and purposeful. Like a jungle cat ready to pounce, the silver Viper GTS pauses at the Texaco exit. We sit, I stare. I finally summon the courage to wave the beast out, the irony in having to permit such an animal anything prevalent.

The Viper glides into place next to the SS; I am behind the latter. Antique plates as black as the car, an older man at the helm with his wife next to him. I glance over the script - Chevelle - as the couple converses with the Viper by their side. Quite a double date, I presume; two couples, two beasts of American iron. The Viper sits, huge rear tires like swaths of black painted by a liberal-handed artist. The body is curvaceous, tight, as if being pulled and stretched taut over the mechanical innards. Presence is certainly felt. Nineteen-inch wheels fill the massive arches, glinting in the night.

Blub-blub-blub. The wise Chevelle remarks patiently.

BrrrrrrrrrrrrRAPrrrrrrRAP. The Viper responds, tense. It is deafeningly loud, as if the sight of it alone wouldn't be enough to capture all of your remaining senses.

The light goes green, the Chevelle pulls ahead. It seemed as if the man behind the wheel wasn't interested in exercising his right foot, something he had done in his youth I'm sure, and in the same vehicle I wouldn't doubt. The Viper signals to pull into my lane and turn; I let him go of course. Such a vehicle demands the utmost respect - a respect that seemingly causes you to act without thinking, to acquiesce without contemplation. You just do.

I had to. How could I not? 'Twas the first time I had been near such a machine, such a vehicle built for one thing and nothing less, for speed without comprimise. I pull ahead, him in the left line and myself in the right, just quick enough to let off at his side. I giggle to myself as the hiss of the turbo is followed by a satisfying whoosh of air as the blow-off valve discharges, at a point not-too-coincidentally near the open passenger window of the Viper. Out the window my hand goes, the veritable thumb-up a salute to a fellow car enthusiast.

He pulls up next to me. A middle aged man and his wife, their features noticeable under the wash of every passing streetlight, shadowed ghosts in between.

"Nice car!" I yell, meekly.

And then it happens

BBBBBRAAAAAAAAAPPPP-BAPBAPBAPBAP!!!

Like a thousand angry milk trucks all turned up to 11, the Viper lunges forward in a deafening cacophony. Instant torque finds its way to the ground through the massive rear tires. I am dust in the wind. I fight to stay in my lane, as if a gale wind happened upon our otherwise lonely street. Never have I witnessed such acceleration. Such ferocity. Now tame, the Viper restrains itself behind the civilized Chevelle as they turn left; I turn right.

I was bitten, I felt constricted by the snake that wrapped itself around body and soul, and I loved every second of it. The Viper redeemed the night.



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- Jeff - 05-31-2008

Wow...The version I got on the phone was much less poetic.


- Goodspeed - 05-31-2008

TurboOmni08 Wrote:Wow...The version I got on the phone was much less poetic.

Woe is me, for I hath not my own Viper.


- Goodspeed - 05-31-2008

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- Dave - 05-31-2008

Yo Scotty, did you write the Viper story?? :-)
Great little story, nice style and imagery and a pair of excellent cars too...


- WRXtranceformed - 05-31-2008

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ROFL! If my old STI had that kind of fuel system it would have put down 1k at the wheels no problem!!