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Re: Thinking about getting a new DD - Evan - 12-07-2011
![[Image: 2011-hyundai-sonata-review.jpg]](http://www.hyundai-carz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/2011-hyundai-sonata-review.jpg)
vs.
![[Image: kia-optima-turbo.jpg]](http://kiaoptima.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/kia-optima-turbo.jpg)
i rest my case
Re: Thinking about getting a new DD - HAULN-SS - 12-07-2011
I was only basing it on the rental car optima I had like 3 -4 years ago that was absolute shit. Everything I put my hands on in the car felt like it came out of one of those glue-together car model kit templates.
Re: Thinking about getting a new DD - WRXtranceformed - 12-07-2011
I will say that while the CTS is super comfortable, well laid out, powerful and you can get it with every amenity imaginable, good gas mileage it does not get. Especially if you're going to be driving in the mountains. The best I've averaged was 26 all highway driving...closer to 19-20 with mixed / mostly town driving. The side benefit is that for the DI version anyway it makes over 300hp and you can use regular gas! Try that in a jap counterpart
Re: Thinking about getting a new DD - Evan - 12-07-2011
HAULN-SS Wrote:I was only basing it on the rental car optima I had like 3 -4 years ago that was absolute shit. Everything I put my hands on in the car felt like it came out of one of those glue-together car model kit templates.i think both kia and hyundai were pretty much mediocre meh until they stepped up their game in the ~2010 timeframe
Re: Thinking about getting a new DD - caa337 - 12-07-2011
Love the optima turbo but whoever designed those wheels should be shot.
Re: Thinking about getting a new DD - JustinG - 12-07-2011
You can get one of those completely loaded, Nav, 274hp, etc for $30k....WOW.
Re: Thinking about getting a new DD - NTIman - 12-07-2011
I really like the way Kia and Hyundai cars feel and drive. In my opinion, they are miles better than Toyota in styling, driving feel, and maybe even interior quality.
The only complaint I have is that when I changed the spark plugs in my neighbors Sportage, it was a huge pain in the ass, and every bolt felt like it wanted to strip out. Not a fun job at all, and I'd be slightly concerned about that if I were to buy one, because I hate stuff that doesn't seem to want to go back together smoothly.
Re: Thinking about getting a new DD - JPolen01 - 12-07-2011
JustinG Wrote:You can get one of those completely loaded, Nav, 274hp, etc for $30k....WOW.Damn thats cheap. Just looked at the genesis sedan and they start at 34k add your technology package for 4k and premium for 4k and it's actually getting pretty expensive.
Re: Thinking about getting a new DD - Mike - 12-08-2011
JPolen01 Wrote:JustinG Wrote:You can get one of those completely loaded, Nav, 274hp, etc for $30k....WOW.Damn thats cheap. Just looked at the genesis sedan and they start at 34k add your technology package for 4k and premium for 4k and it's actually getting pretty expensive.
relative to... the cars "we" shop for.
relative to the cars in its class, it's cheap.
Re: Thinking about getting a new DD - Evan - 12-08-2011
JustinG Wrote:You can get one of those completely loaded, Nav, 274hp, etc for $30k....WOW.
$1k cashback and using a carbuying service like penfed.zag.com and fully loaded is 27700. Personally Id drop the nav which brings it to 26500.
Or drop the turbo altogether (200hp is plenty IMO) and get it for 23500... with all the fancy luxury shit. daaamnnn
Re: Thinking about getting a new DD - WRXtranceformed - 12-08-2011
I think we answered your question!
Re: Thinking about getting a new DD - ViPER1313 - 12-08-2011
New Mustang V6 :dunno: 305hp, 31mpg highway with the auto, love mine. I average about 26-27mpg 95% highway w/ the manual, it's rated at 29mpg. With Ford X-Plan pricing you are looking at 23 -> 28g depending on how you option it.
Re: Thinking about getting a new DD - HAULN-SS - 12-09-2011
Hrmm..another interesting thought.
I'm probably going to go test drive some things this weekend.
As a side note, as a benefit through my company, I can get toyotas at dealer cost. Now, seeing as how theres like no effing toyota out there I'd want except a 4runner, sequoia or land cruiser - does anyone know a rough way to calculate dealer cost on a vehicle?
I had briefly looked at avalons online, but..meh
Re: Thinking about getting a new DD - G.Irish - 12-09-2011
HAULN-SS Wrote:As a side note, as a benefit through my company, I can get toyotas at dealer cost. Now, seeing as how theres like no effing toyota outDude, get an 86!
Re: Thinking about getting a new DD - HAULN-SS - 12-09-2011
It doesnt have a set release date yet do it? I havent been following it much. Also, I'm not sure if the guy can get scions. <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://sandmountaintoyota.com/default.aspx">http://sandmountaintoyota.com/default.aspx</a><!-- m -->
Just has 'yotas on the page, anyway. Can regular dealerships order a scion?
Re: Thinking about getting a new DD - Evan - 12-09-2011
truecar.com has dealer cost
Re: Thinking about getting a new DD - .RJ - 12-09-2011
It doesnt look like that shows incentives and mfr hold back... those are going to be a big part in the bottom line for the dealer.
Re: Thinking about getting a new DD - Evan - 12-09-2011
dealer cost as shown is below invoice, so it would have to include at least some incentives and holdback
Re: Thinking about getting a new DD - SlimKlim - 12-09-2011
HAULN-SS Wrote:It doesnt have a set release date yet do it? I havent been following it much. Also, I'm not sure if the guy can get scions. <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://sandmountaintoyota.com/default.aspx">http://sandmountaintoyota.com/default.aspx</a><!-- m -->
Just has 'yotas on the page, anyway. Can regular dealerships order a scion?
Dunno but I wouldn't be surprised if they couldn't because of that Scion "Pure Price" horseshit. They aren't supposed to offer any deals, promotions or discounts, just a WYSIWYG price, kinda like Apple but dumber. Well, i guess its not so dumb, considering my desk is littered with Apple products and TCs are like cockroaches.
Re: Thinking about getting a new DD - Seantn1k - 12-12-2011
If you can wait for it.
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