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+--- Thread: F#$^ing brake pads!!! (/showthread.php?tid=852)
- Evan - 08-23-2004
mike you have a real job now, there is no reason to drive a busted ass car around!
- CaptainHenreh - 08-23-2004
Jack, you had better have ordered two rebuild kits. :-p
And did you check on pistons?
- BLINGMW - 08-23-2004
yeah Jack, it'll help once you have all the pistons working! :wink:
and Chad, I'm not sure what's wrong with leaving the bleeder screw tight and pressing pistons in. I've never seen a service manual recommend doing it that way that I can remember, and from what I understand about how a master cyl is put together, I don't see what harm could come to it. With the master cyl piston(s) retracted (brake pedal up), the hole is uncovered that leads to the reservoir, so pressing on the brake piston should push fluid through that hole, not past any seals. And yeah, then you don't have to bleed your brakes, which can be a pain in the ass if you're short on time and/or just did it recently. Please tell me if I'm missing something, I've never heard of any damage done to a master cyl by doing it this way?
- JackoliciousLegs - 08-23-2004
Advance can't order the pistons. They can order new calipers for 50 bones.
- CaptainHenreh - 08-24-2004
And the rebuild kits?
- JackoliciousLegs - 08-24-2004
will be there wed morning for 8 bucks... 2 of them
- white_2kgt - 08-24-2004
BLINGMW Wrote:yeah Jack, it'll help once you have all the pistons working! :wink:
and Chad, I'm not sure what's wrong with leaving the bleeder screw tight and pressing pistons in. I've never seen a service manual recommend doing it that way that I can remember, and from what I understand about how a master cyl is put together, I don't see what harm could come to it. With the master cyl piston(s) retracted (brake pedal up), the hole is uncovered that leads to the reservoir, so pressing on the brake piston should push fluid through that hole, not past any seals. And yeah, then you don't have to bleed your brakes, which can be a pain in the ass if you're short on time and/or just did it recently. Please tell me if I'm missing something, I've never heard of any damage done to a master cyl by doing it this way?
Just telling you from experience that the MC can be damaged by forcing the fluid back through it. Maybe its just a Ford w/ ABS thing. I don't understand why everyone thinks bleeding brakes is so hard?? Just cracking the bleeder screw makes it 10x easier as well.
-c
- Mike - 08-24-2004
My fluid drained completely last night... no brakes... Need to borrow a car to get to work... weeeee!
- BLINGMW - 08-24-2004
white_2kgt Wrote:...Maybe its just a Ford w/ ABS thing...
that, I don't know. I do know some car's bleeding procedures become more complex as ABS gets in the way, and I don't know proper bleeding and pad replacement teqniques w/ ABS. Some don't seem to matter though, as on an E36 (all have ABS), I still think the manuals and people who work on them leave the bleed screw alone. However, some later ABS systems may have a problem with it? Would be good to know!
....and what happened to you Mike?! :?
- Mike - 08-24-2004
Well the caliper has been leaking since VIR, I actually burnt the rubber inside it... Normally it just drains some fluid, I refill it, and I'm on my way. The past two days it has gotten much worse (drained about twice as fast) and overnight I guess it just got too low. Got in the car, touched the brakes and BAM to the floor. Luckily Chris has a 2nd (actually 3rd) car so i drove that in. That is my 3rd caliper to go kaput, but they were all old... I was going to be picking up a GSR brake setup sometime this week, they became a necessity today so I'm heading up for them after work.
- .RJ - 08-24-2004
You should buy chris's bring bring rexus.
- Mike - 08-24-2004
drove that pile to work... what a pile.
- Mike - 08-24-2004
fuck. drew said he gave me everything i needed.... knuckles are different...
- JackoliciousLegs - 08-25-2004
rex, i'll call you around 11 tomorrow...
- ScottyB - 08-26-2004
got a ride in jacks car. stops like whoaaaa. i want my HP+'s on my car so bad right now.
- CaptainHenreh - 08-26-2004
JackoliciousLegs Wrote:rex, i'll call you around 11 tomorrow...
Very good. I'll be finished all my chores by then.
- JackoliciousLegs - 08-26-2004
oh, and a caliper rebuild kit includes just one rubber piece... i guess just for one piston. I guess we're only doing one caliper.
- CaptainHenreh - 08-26-2004
Did you tell them it was a turbo?
- JackoliciousLegs - 08-26-2004
yes, i checked the label. It said turbo.
- JackoliciousLegs - 08-27-2004
new calipers have been ordered, I pick them up today.