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- Kaan - 06-20-2007
BLINGMW Wrote:Kaan Wrote:there is no way on Gods green earth that any politician will get voted into office if they support placing this kind of civil penalty set up on adults. and if the people were stupid enough to do that to themselves... the commonwealth will end up going up in smoke.
I would support most of these changes (clearly I'm in the minority here). 20 over? Hell yeah, big fine. I think the "impeding traffic" is a bit odd... but hey, if you impede traffic enough for a cop to actually ticket you, you probably deserve it. Hopefully this applies to people who are halfway into an intersection, blocking it for everyone else.
I'm all for giving some teeth to laws that actually protect citizens from the dangerous actions of other citizens. It's about time we start taking driving seriously, ya know, since it is like the #1 cause of death for our age group.
live in nova where doing the speed limit on 495 will get you killed... or where people think I95 = i drive 95. and the police around here get really arbitrary. 50 cars on one section of highway moving at 75mph in a 55... you get picked out of the crowd... you are SOL. it happens all the time around here. if you do 55mph he might get a thumb up his ass and write you a ticket too for impeding traffic.
- .RJ - 06-20-2007
Mike Wrote:you mean the number of days until you say that again, but actually do nothing?
Yep.
I should have moved this year like I originally planned to... the job offer I got kept me around for a while longer, although it hasnt turned out as well as I expected it to.
- Kaan - 06-20-2007
I'll probably be the first one to feel the bite... the way FFx likes to pull me over.
- Dragon - 06-20-2007
.RJ Wrote:although it hasnt turned out as well as I expected it to.Does it ever.
- .RJ - 06-20-2007
Dragon Wrote:Does it ever.
Usually not... but the last job was great for the first year.
- Sijray21 - 06-20-2007
HAULN-SS Wrote:fuck that...how am I SAVING anything by driving safe?
i giggled at this :lol: - guess lives don't count
hrug:the price hikes are all the more reason not to speed for me. i've been trying to be better about speeding to lower my once astronomically high insurance rate and i've been good about it.
- Apoc - 06-20-2007
I could give two shits about the fine for reckless driving.
Now articifally low speed limits, there's a law I care about.
- Kaan - 06-20-2007
jason you speed alot when you ride. i'm sure they'd love to bust your balls about that
- Mike - 06-20-2007
Apoc Wrote:I could give two shits about the fine for reckless driving.
you never go 20 over? like on 95 or something?
- .RJ - 06-20-2007
Apoc Wrote:I could give two shits about the fine for reckless driving.
But you carry a radar detector on road trips... what happens when there's 2 cops, or the radar detector goes off too late?
- white_2kgt - 06-20-2007
.RJ Wrote:Apoc Wrote:I could give two shits about the fine for reckless driving.
But you carry a radar detector on road trips... what happens when there's 2 cops, or the radar detector goes off too late?
or they paint you w/ laser.
- HAULN-SS - 06-20-2007
Man, you're the fucking terror today, aren't you?
- Sijray21 - 06-20-2007
Kaan Wrote:jason you speed alot when you ride. i'm sure they'd love to bust your balls about that
i know :oops:
i'm trying to be better about riding, but my driving is pretty calm
after hearing about my friend getting pulled over on I-66 going 92 in a 60 (lost his license for 6 months, lawyer'd out of 30 days in jail, and had to pay over $550 in fines) i slowed down considerably on the bike on the highway and try to keep it under 65 on the highways
- BLINGMW - 06-20-2007
white97dsm Wrote:Then maybe we should come up with a little bit harder test to obtain your license. To me the whole process on how we get our license is a joke, and something I could have passed when I was like 6 yrs old.
I agree that it's a joke! In no way does it demonstrate that you know how to drive safely. And my stance used to be the same as yours, expecting our DMV to have tougher licensing. But..... I realize they have little interest in doing that. And it would cost money. And waiting for a government agency to do something useful, well, it's hopeless.
So if the ticket costs are higher, wouldn't there be even more demand for private driver training? More incentive to know WTF you're doing? They're already popping up everywhere, I helped with one in ATL, and it's potentially a money making business. Hopefully they'll get more rigorous, and concerned parents and drivers themselves will realize that spending ~$400 to save a $1000 ticket or a life is a no brainer. I'm all for a private industry taking care of the problem.
- Apoc - 06-20-2007
.RJ Wrote:Apoc Wrote:I could give two shits about the fine for reckless driving.
But you carry a radar detector on road trips... what happens when there's 2 cops, or the radar detector goes off too late?
Then I deserve it... although I generally adjust my speed accordingly if I'm all alone. Two cops is pretty easy to avoid with the V1 'cause you get 2 blips and it also detects laser.
I guess I've just never really cared about the cost of the ticket as I see it as a fee for getting to drive fast. I get caught, what, like less than 1% of the time? Big deal. Points are the only thing I really care about 'cause that's what really impacts me.
- HAULN-SS - 06-20-2007
Isnt laser detection a crock? It's not continuous like radar, so if youre detecting something, it's coming off the car in front of you right? By then it's probably too late
- Apoc - 06-20-2007
It works a lot like instant-on radar... but like I said in another thread, I usually find someone else to follow (at a distance) or just don't do more than 10 over when I'm alone. My system certainly isn't fullproof but I have never gotten a speeding ticket when using the V1 and I haven't had a reckless of any kind for probably 10 years. :knocks on wood:
- CaptainHenreh - 06-20-2007
VEIL and jammers are your only real defense against Lidar.
But VA doesn't use laser much.
- white_2kgt - 06-20-2007
Apoc Wrote:.RJ Wrote:Apoc Wrote:I could give two shits about the fine for reckless driving.
But you carry a radar detector on road trips... what happens when there's 2 cops, or the radar detector goes off too late?
Then I deserve it... although I generally adjust my speed accordingly if I'm all alone. Two cops is pretty easy to avoid with the V1 'cause you get 2 blips and it also detects laser.
I guess I've just never really cared about the cost of the ticket as I see it as a fee for getting to drive fast. I get caught, what, like less than 1% of the time? Big deal. Points are the only thing I really care about 'cause that's what really impacts me.
Does the jail time bother you? Jail time you might say for speeding? Yep, jail time. I know several people that has spent 5 nights in a VA jail for speeding.
CaptainHenreh Wrote:VEIL and jammers are your only real defense against Lidar.
But VA doesn't use laser much.
All I see for the most part in MD is laser, I can't believe VA isn't using it. Not detector is going to go off w/ laser until it's already clocked you.
- CaptainHenreh - 06-20-2007
white_2kgt Wrote:CaptainHenreh Wrote:VEIL and jammers are your only real defense against Lidar.
But VA doesn't use laser much.
All I see for the most part in MD is laser, I can't believe VA isn't using it. Not detector is going to go off w/ laser until it's already clocked you.
AFAIK, only the VSP uses LIDAR and sparingly...traditionally in virginia since radar detectors are illegal (and radar is easier to use) that the police have always used radar.