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- HAULN-SS - 05-03-2007
.RJ Wrote:Andy Wrote:You're an idiot.
Nothing new here
You're both idiots?
Edit: feel free to dispute this by clarifying yourselves...how exactly is posting something relevant: that travelling can suck, in a thread that's going in that direction, idiotic?
- white_2kgt - 05-03-2007
You've been out of college for what? 4years? and you are already the 'best' employee in your company? Time to find another company b/c I don't see them being around much longer. No offense.
The people here at work that travel love it. Personally I choose not to b/c I like having my weekends for me and I don't like sitting on planes for hours and hours. Also most of those that travel (the most) are either unmarried or have no kids. The seem to have a great time going places (out of this country). I just don't want to spend 1/2 of Sunday sitting in an airport, then all Sunday night sitting on a plane, then getting off said plane and heading straight to work for 8hrs.
- Mike - 05-03-2007
Okok so maybe I wasn't clear.
My company is small... my team, which I am "the best" on only consists of five people. One has a year less experience than me and the other three are brand new. My manager has been here a year, but is completely worthless in the brain department... he still couldn't use our software if he tried. He does recognize I'm his top guy, but for some unknown reason, he won't pay me as such... that;'s the entire struggle. I don't give a damn about a title, but when you hire someone with 0 college education (or 100% not applicable), I train them up, and they are clearly considered lower than me... they should not be making $30k more than me.
By switching to this other group, I know everyone over there, I work with them on a daily basis, and I know their manager and career plans are not MIA/retarded.
Unless my meeting with boss' boss today goes really well, I'm going to go with the deployment position as it will surely open many more doors than my current job.
- .RJ - 05-03-2007
HAULN-SS Wrote:Edit: feel free to dispute this by clarifying yourselves...how exactly is posting something relevant:
It was just an ignoramus post.
Carry on.
- Apoc - 05-03-2007
Sounds like you didn't need anyone's help.
- mrbaggio - 05-03-2007
Mike Wrote:when you hire someone with 0 college education (or 100% not applicable), I train them up, and they are clearly considered lower than me... they should not be making $30k more than me.
What does your boss say with you tell him point blank you are better than this person, but paid much less?
- Mike - 05-03-2007
He usually changes the subject and/or laughs it off.
- mrbaggio - 05-03-2007
Tell him if you don't get more you will leave.
- Apoc - 05-03-2007
It's pretty obvious he doesn't care because he's okay with Mike taking the sales job.
- Mike - 05-03-2007
Apoc Wrote:It's pretty obvious he doesn't care because he's okay with Mike taking the sales job.
Well... that has changed. He didn't care when I told him that it was bullshit. Now that I'm threatening to leave? Boss' boss says he'll talk to HR in three weeks (he's busy with other things).
So now... do I wait three weeks to see what happens? The deployment position isn't going anywhere.
- HAULN-SS - 05-03-2007
that's almost a month of increased salary if you take the other position - I wouldn't wait.
- Apoc - 05-03-2007
What's to lose by waiting? Wait the three weeks, if you get the cash you're done with it. If it turns out he's blowing smoke up your ass then bolt.
You have to ultimately consider what you want. If you'd be happier in your current job with more reconition then definitely wait. If you want to change what you do and want the travel, then switch.
- mrbaggio - 05-03-2007
I would bolt now. It sounds like a delay tactic to me. He is only delaying because he's not taking you seriously. He is hoping that it will blow over/you forget.
Maybe lay it out for him. Going of what you said clearly you should be getting raise. Demand that it is retroactive. We do that every year here. Raises start March 1st, but we don't know how much until March 15th. Then they include that missed raised salary in the next paycheck.
If he comes back and says there is no money. Throw a handful of glitter in his face and take the new job.
- Beej - 05-03-2007
I say wait the three weeks.
Certain people can do (and enjoy doing) sales. I know I couldn't do it, and I don't think you're the kind of person that would enjoy it either.
- Mike - 05-03-2007
So boss just came in "What kind of salary are you looking for?" My response "Fair. You know what other people are making, but I do not. Make it fair."
The catch? I do know what other people are making
If he comes back low, I bolt. If he makes things fair, I stay.FUN!
- mrbaggio - 05-03-2007
Sneaky. I like it.
When will you know?
- Mike - 05-03-2007
Not my fault people leave things on printers...
I suppose in a few weeks.
- mrbaggio - 05-03-2007
Wow that's you found out how much they make?????
- HAULN-SS - 05-03-2007
a few weeks? i hope he doesnt come back with a 3% raise or some bullshit.
- .RJ - 05-03-2007
HAULN-SS Wrote:a few weeks?
HR stuff doesnt move at light speed, even in small companies.
HAULN-SS Wrote:i hope he doesnt come back with a 3% raise or some bullshit.
Ok Rob...