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- Mike - 06-27-2006
i saw a video on youtube where some guy did that... didn't look like it was worth the hassle. how do you balance your own tires anyway?
- stevegula - 06-27-2006
put the tire on something to spin it.. basically two equal height poles with Vs on the top so the axle sits down in it.. and spin it.. mark the low spot.. and spin it again. the low spot should always be the same because its' the heaviest part of the tire. then you tape a weight to the opposite side of the tire and repeat the process until the 'low' spot becomes random.
It becomes worth it when you're going through a set of tires every 5 track days or every race weekend and you don't want to keep spending money to have them swapped. Or you need to change between dry/wet tires in the same weekend.
- mpg9999 - 06-28-2006
Kaan Wrote:I do ride mine asshole!actually i got pulled over this weekend on it. PWCo likes to check the registration and the license... good thing i was with a M class rider lol... He let us go after just a couple of minutes.
I'd love to come up to rides... but i dont have an M guy to get me up to you guys... but that will all change once the MM house v2.0 drifto is fully operational...
If he pulled you over just to check your registration and liscense that is complete crap.
- .paul - 06-28-2006
i got mine changed at ffx tire.. both for 50 bucks or something, dropped the bike off, and hour later it was done.
pretty cool/knowledgable guys, just call before you go.
- stevegula - 06-28-2006
mpg9999 Wrote:Kaan Wrote:I do ride mine asshole!
I'd love to come up to rides... but i dont have an M guy to get me up to you guys... but that will all change once the MM house v2.0 drifto is fully operational...
If he pulled you over just to check your registration and liscense that is complete crap.
seriously, what kind of dick cop is worried about riders being licensed or insured? fuck safety.
- Kaan - 06-28-2006
The same kind of dick cop that rides... and had his bike stolen... and wants to make sure people are playing by the rules. My bike i doubt anyone would want to steal... i dunno why, its been a blast to ride... but the "parts" arent in such high demand... Jims SV650... well thats another story. PWCo has apparently had a sharp spike in bike theft lately...
you'd never know it on my road... before you get to my house there is an R6 raven sitting outside locked (for what its worth) and an R1 with no cover, lock, or anything... then you get to my FZR with a lock, cover, blocked in fairly well (as in you have to move a car to get the bike out)... I'm sure they'll come for mine last... and once the MM house is up and running... it'll stay inside.
now to get Evan on my bike to learn
- Ginger - 06-28-2006
Isn't an officer supposed to have probable cause to pull you over? You know, a reason? The fact that you're riding a sportbike isn't one, if you ask me.
- Evan - 06-28-2006
asteele2 Wrote:Isn't an officer supposed to have probable cause to pull you over? You know, a reason? The fact that you're riding a sportbike isn't one, if you ask me.search your car yes. pull you over, no. One of those "i agree to ___" things when you get your license
- Kaan - 06-28-2006
you can be pulled to have a license and registration check at any time... and thats just one of those things you learn to live with...
- Ginger - 06-28-2006
I'm not stating to be difficult, I'm actually curious on this one.
There was a question about the legality of Drunk Driving Checkpoints in Michigan (Sitz v Michigan). In the case the Michigan Supreme Court ruled that stopping folks via roadblock "just to check" was a violation of the fourth amendment (don't jump down my throat for making a statement that you think might be reaching - I'm outlining the case). The state prosecutor appealed all the way to the US Supreme Court - but the interesting thing is that while the US Supreme Court did reverse Michigan's ruling it did not do so on the grounds that it's justifiable to pull somebody over for a random legality check. The US Supreme Court determined that the roadblocks were held in exception to the fourth amendment:
Court Notes Wrote:no one can seriously dispute the magnitude of the drunken driving problem or the States' interest in eradicating it.
More Wrote:the weight bearing on the other scale--the measure of the intrusion on motorists stopped briefly at sobriety checkpoints--is slight.
These sentiments indicate, to me at least, that you really do need probable cause to pull somebody over but, in the instance of Michigan v Sitz, drunk driving is far too worthy a cause to bother with that kind of mumbo jumbo.
The relationship I'm curious about is the difference between a roadblock and pulling people over just for driving around. In neither isntance is there a specific reason to check the parties involved. It also indicates an end-state pursuit of justice rather than a process view.
- mpg9999 - 06-28-2006
stevegula Wrote:mpg9999 Wrote:Kaan Wrote:I do ride mine asshole!
I'd love to come up to rides... but i dont have an M guy to get me up to you guys... but that will all change once the MM house v2.0 drifto is fully operational...
If he pulled you over just to check your registration and liscense that is complete crap.
seriously, what kind of dick cop is worried about riders being licensed or insured? fuck safety.
Yeah, I have the audacity to use public roads, not break the law, and expect in turn not to be harrassed :roll:
- .RJ - 06-28-2006
Your tin foil hat is on too tight.
If you're not doing anything wrong, then its not worth worrying about.... I got busted for dead plates on one of the checkpoints once, but I'll take that (well desevered anyways) over keeping drunks off the roads if we can.
I would rather get pulled over and my tags run if there had been a string of bike thefts in the area and take whatever inconvenience it may cause, over the cops not doing anything at all.
If you want to sit an debate the principle of intrusion of your rights and freedoms and all that bullshit, go well ahead, but you're not going to take your case of getting busted for having a blinker light out if you got pulled over for a routine check to the supreme court. Pay the fine, replace your bulb, and be thankful that the cops are looking out for those of us on 2 wheels.
- Dragon - 06-28-2006
It's not like any of us have put tags registered against another vehicle/bike on another vehicle/bike to avoid having to deal with the hassle. . . . . . . . . riiiiiiight guys?
I'll deal with a little bit of hassle from the police if it keeps people honest.
- mpg9999 - 06-28-2006
Some of your attitudes towards this is truely disgusting. You can not pull over someone for no reason. Here is a good article on roadblocks (which someone the supreme court rulled legal for some things):
The only justification for stopping citizens under a roadblock scenario is to warn them of an unseen peril that could cause injury or death to an unsuspecting motorist. So-called "sobriety check points," or seat belt checks, or the myriad of other excuses the government concocts to harass and intimidate its citizens through the use of roadblocks are, in our opinion unconstitutional and in direct contradiction to any honest definition of freedom.
A free and open society that champions individual liberty and personal responsibility---the kind of society we try to tell the world the USA represents, cannot condone the arbitrary stopping, interrogating, intimidation and searching of citizens whose only crime is to be peacefully traveling a public highway. Roadblocks, as used in the US, are designed and intended to use fear, intimidation, and inconvenience to expedite a government edict or a political agenda. They have a net zero influence on public safety. But, even if there were a "safety benefit" related to roadblocks, it would not outweigh the negative totalitarian nature of this practice.
Currently, roadblocks are being used to circumvent the need for probable cause to stop, interrogate, and search the occupants of motor vehicles. The pretense might be a seatbelt check, registration or drivers license verification, proof of insurance, or a "safety" inspection. The short sighted court system has readily approved the practice of using a trumped up pretence to stop a vehicle to provide new opportunities to look for other violations of the law. Given that it is virtually impossible to do anything in America without violating one or more laws, especially while driving, roadblocks give the police the opportunity to abuse any individual or group they chose to target. The reincarnated prohibitionist movement has seized upon the roadblock tactic as a means to employ fear in their holy war against "Demon Rum." Many of the current DWI laws have nothing to do with addressing drunk driving as a safety problem. This is a campaign to disparage the use of beverages containing alcohol and to undermine the hospitality industry that sells these beverages. (Time for a disclaimer, The NMA does not have any affiliation with the beverage or hospitality industries.) The proponents of DWI roadblocks readily and publicly admit that the purpose of roadblocks is not to catch drunk drivers (which they seldom do). The purpose is to intimidate and to make people fearful of drinking and driving---no matter how little or responsibly they may do so. This tactic is aimed directly at people who drink in a responsible manner and who are not over represented in traffic accidents.
The advocates of DWI roadblocks also admit that roadblocks do offer the opportunity to arrest people for drunk driving who would not otherwise be arrested based on their ability to drive safely. The unreasonable and unscientific blood alcohol standards of .1% or worse yet .08% allow the arrest and conviction as a drunk driver, regardless of actual impairment. This absurdity is expanded by the use of roadblocks.
- Ginger - 06-28-2006
I'm not saying that I think I should be able to get away with doing something wrong - that's missing the point. I'll own up to a ticket I get, sure, no problem - I deserve a lot right now. I'm not trying to be a conspiracist, and I think reducing my query to a blinker light comparison is a little degrading.
The idea that "if you're not doing anything wrong you don't have anything to worry about" is silly. It represents an end-state view of justice that shouldn't be practiced in America. I'd grant that you're right, if you're not doing anything wrong you shouldn't need to be worried. Resting on those laurels, though, is akin to saying that the ends justify the means. When did that get to be an acceptable LE or Judicial practice? Justice in America is supposed to follow a process-oriented ideal - everybody has to follow all the laws to get an acceptable conviction. It's not right to say "well, whatever it takes to get the bad guy caught... 'cause he's a bad guy."
- .RJ - 06-28-2006
mpg9999 Wrote:cannot condone the arbitrary stopping, interrogating, intimidation and searching of citizens whose only crime is to be peacefully traveling a public highway.
Well, if you consider being stopped to check your license and registration "interrigation and intimidation" then you live in a very sheltered world.
- mpg9999 - 06-28-2006
To say that if your not doing anything wrong then you have nothing to worry about is absurd. You guys are off living in fantasy land. Try telling that to my friend in Florida. He was arrested (twice, for the same incident) for hit and run, when he had nothing to do with it. They siezed his car and never gave it back. He had to spend tens of thousands of dollars on legal fees. There are so many stories like this, you guys really should be more aware of your rights, and how we are loosing them because of attitudes like these.
- stevegula - 06-28-2006
mpg9999 Wrote:There are so many stories like this, you guys really should be more aware of your rights, and how we are loosing them because of attitudes like these.
You are aware that driving on a public road is a privilege and not a right, right?
- .RJ - 06-28-2006
mpg9999 Wrote:To say that if your not doing anything wrong then you have nothing to worry about is absurd. You guys are off living in fantasy land.
Fantasy land... fairfax county... close enough.
So if a cop pulled you over on your bike, what are you going to do? Refuse to give him your registration and license becuase its absurd, illegal, unconstitutional, or just plain egregious?
mpg9999 Wrote:Try telling that to my friend in Florida. He was arrested (twice, for the same incident) for hit and run, when he had nothing to do with it. They siezed his car and never gave it back. He had to spend tens of thousands of dollars on legal fees.
This has nothing to do with a sobriety/seatbelt checkpoint or getting pulled over to run your plates. Nothing at all. Strawman argument.
No offense intended by my viewpoint here, but I just dont agree with making a huge fuss over such irrelevant things on the principal that those things could be expanded into some sort of totalitarian big brother government state that keeps us all on a leash.
- Ross - 06-28-2006
Kaan Wrote:HOV fool... lol... and once i'm at the Oakton crib... i dont wana hear that bullshit from anyone! too bad i'm a jew and wont spring for the $300 class like you... i need my M back.
Kaan, are you actually Jewish?