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Re: Computational Device Technological Discussion Thread - rherold9 - 04-30-2017
Little do people know I'm a bit of a PC nerd.
PCPartPicker part list
CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard: MSI X99A SLI PLUS ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 960GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Founder Edition Video Card
Case: NZXT H440 (Matte Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter
Monitor: Acer GN246HL 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor
Monitor: Dell S2716DG 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor
Keyboard: Logitech G710 Plus Wired Gaming Keyboard
Mouse: Logitech G500s Laser Gaming Mouse Wired Laser Mouse
Headphones: Kingston HyperX Cloud II 7.1 Channel Headset
Other: Blue Microphones Yeti USB Microphone - Silver
Let me know if you need any help building or have questions
Computational Device Technological Discussion Thread - ViPER1313 - 04-30-2017
I have had the worst experience with MSI motherboards and products in general. Had to RMA 1 motherboard and 1 video card in my brothers build, BIOS was superb buggy, another OEM machine with an MSI board had major stability issues. I have had much better luck with Gigabyte.
Re: Computational Device Technological Discussion Thread - ryangreen1 - 04-30-2017
Some things to do that I didnt, and should have:
Don't cheap out on the keyboard/mouse. I still have a best buy keyboard and it can't register more than 2 of the QWERTASDF keys, so you can't do things like reload while moving forward and strafing at the same time, or stupid shit like that. I did eventually get a cheap mouse I've been really happy with, tT eSports talon blu for $20 on amazon.
Don't cheap out on the case. I have a $25 case that literally is falling apart around my build. None of the finger screws stay in and it rattles a lot. Heavy as hell when I'm trying to move it too.
I spent too much on the motherboard on features I probably will never use, like "extra support for audio interfaces". That money could have gone towards a better graphics card.
Definitely get an SSD right off the bat. It was a massive upgrade installing windows on an SSD instead of a HDD, boot times are like 10 seconds. 120GB wasn't really big enough for me to install more than a couple games along with windows on, so if you care about load times for games get a bigger SSD.
Honestly, I wouldn't worry about futureproofing too much. Shits gonna be out of date in like 2 years regardless of what you buy now if you're on the bleeding edge. I have a i5 4690K and GTX 960, and it runs almost anything at 1080p no problem with high-ultra on most games and nothing below medium on newer ones, and looks waaaaaay better than the same game on the xbox one. Only game I had trouble with is Ghost Recon: Wildlands beta, but it was a beta and is probably considered a console port.
Ryan's build above is definitely a big baller build and would be great, but its a lot of money. I'm sure that would run most stuff at 4K, but I don't really notice a huge difference between 1440p and 4K. If you're on a lower budget a 1070 or 1080 non ti is cheaper now and will probably do just fine at 1440p. Thinking about picking up a 1070 myself and getting a 1440p monitor, or just running everything at a bazillion frames at 1080p. Maybe then arma will actually run at 60 FPS online.
Also unless you're doing content creation, you probably don't need that $100 microphone. I got a playstation 3 eye that has a mic for $15 that works great with a $2 driver from code-labs. I picked it up to try to use a free version of trackIR called facetracknoIR since it records at like 60 fps, but never got around to correctly wiring up IR leds on a headset for it to work.
Re: Computational Device Technological Discussion Thread - rherold9 - 05-01-2017
There is really no such thing as future proofing unless you go baller just buy the nicest and newest graphics card and monitor that you can afford.
Right now 4k isn't worth the cost. 1440p is a good sweet spot if 1080 isn't enough. It's a lot about than 1080. Colors and graphics just are amazing on 1440p. It blew my mind the first time I loaded up even CS:GO on 1440p compared to 1080p.
The real question is what is your budget? What are you looking to use your computer for? What do you want to do in the future?
The goal here is simply buy a future proof case so mid or full do not skimp here. $80+ is recommended with good cable management so when you replace parts you don't cry. I love NZXT cases for the price and features they are great. There are other great cases as well.
For mobo don't spend for extra features you don't need.
16GB is plenty of RAM right now.
For CPU minimum i7 would be my recommendation. 4 core is fine. Skylake will be fine for 3-4 years easily for most people.
For sure get a small SSD for Windows and a few of your favorite games.
Don't cheap out on PSU you'll regret it. Fully modular at minimum. EVGA and Corsair. 650W is where you want to be for future proofing on single card and 4 core i7.
Now, for my build. I went a little baller reason is future proof. I built my first comp summer of 2015. It was cheap >$800 but I built to leave me room for the future. I just upgraded a few months ago. My original build had an i5-4690k, 8GB RAM, 250GB SSD, 1TB HD, and a GTX970. The computer started to struggle pretty hard on high graphics at 1080p all around. So, I first got the CPU, Fan, Mobo and RAM (used the same case and PSU). Then I decided to just go full 1440p tard as the monitor went on sale for 20% off. I then decided I didn't want to upgrade graphics card in 2 years so I went balls out and bought a 1080TI and a new PSU to support the new powerful card. I'm hoping I'll be all good for the next 4 years before having to touch anything. It took a lot of money but it has been so worth it.
TL;DR: Hobbies are the expensive. I spend too much money on things.
Re: Computational Device Technological Discussion Thread - ScottyB - 05-02-2017
oh yay this thread involves computer things i know and somewhat understand!
just finished my work/design PC 2 mos ago, took me about a year to collect everything. i'm an oddball in my field...graphics guys almost universally use Apples, but i never found them worth the expense nor did the UI improve my ability to hammer through projects in Adobe Suite. using a PC is also super helpful for most of my clients as their systems are PC based as well. i just use what works and this is what i'm fast with, and its cheaper.
this is my 3rd build in 10 years and i'd still consider myself a noob, but so far so good. i picked a few less than optimal parts due to sales that were too good to pass up but overall its still a decent setup. i needed a PC that was deadnuts reliable, fairly fast, and had good display fidelity/workflow for Adobe Suite. i'm not a gamer so the processor and graphics card reflect that.
PCPartPicker was an awesome resource and if i didn't have it i'm sure i would have overpaid or mis-picked a few things.
CPU - Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor...great deal if you're running a graphics card, its plenty fast
CPU Cooler - CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler...total overkill
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H ATX LGA1150
Memory - G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory
Storage - Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" SSD for boot and program storage.
Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Platter for work and personal file archiving
multiple 1TB 3.5" USB external drives
Video Card - Gigabyte GeForce GTX 960 4GB Video Card
Case - huge, super old school Azza Helios 910 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply - Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX
Wireless Network Adapter - TP-Link TL-WN722N USB 2.0 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter
Optical Drive - Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer
Operating System - Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit....has been a little buggy but better with updates
Monitor - LG 34UM88C-P 34.0" 3440x1440 60Hz Monitor
Mouse - Corsair M65 PRO RGB FPS Wired Optical Mouse
Speakers - some super old-ass Logitech 2-unit system with sub
Keyboard - prehistoric Logitech Elite, honestly i'll never use anything else, its perfect
i found CareyHolzman's PC build channel on Youtube insanely helpful and actually very watchable just for fun. great resource for starting out.
things i learned:
don't forget to plug in the damn 12v CPU power plug or your PC won't start :lol: i know now that i absolutely do not need the CPU Cooler. my core temps are literally room temp/ambient and no matter what i run i can't get it hot. i should have done more research on the video card but i got a deal on it, and i need color accuracy over response time anyway. having a good mouse is critical to my work and i absolutely love the corsair. i'll never go back to dual monitor, ultrawide is wonderful and much easier for workflow. SSD's live up to the hype (this is my first one).
Re: Computational Device Technological Discussion Thread - RawrImAMonster - 05-02-2017
My build is getting a bit dated compared to everyone else in here, but it runs modern games just fine at 1080p. Most games still run at high/ultra without much of an issue. I built this back in 2013 so it's holding up well as far as I'm concerned.
Eventually I'll probably upgrade to the 1070/1080, add another 8 GB of RAM, and overclock my CPU.
CPU: Intel i5 4670K (not overclocked yet)
CPU cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo
Motherboard: ASUS Z87-A LGA 1150 Intel Z87
Memory: Ballistix Sport 8GB DDR3 1600
Video card: Gigabyte GTX770 Windforce
SSD/HD: 128GB Samsung 840 Pro / 2 TB Seagate
Power Supply: Corsair CX600
Re: Computational Device Technological Discussion Thread - Apoc - 05-02-2017
I didn't build this, Alienware did. Also, it's a laptop - I had hardcore desktops for years and finally bailed a few years ago. I've played literally one game on a PC in the last 10 years, so this is used for photo/video editing.
>> Intel® Core™ i7-6700HQ (Quad-Core, 6MB Cache, up to 3.5GHz w/ Turbo Boost)
>> 16GB Dual Channel DDR4 2133MHz (8GBx2)
>> 128GB M.2 SATA 6Gb/s SSD (Boot) + 1TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s (Storage)
>> NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 980M with 8GB GDDR5
Re: Computational Device Technological Discussion Thread - Ken - 05-02-2017
ScottyB Wrote:i should have done more research on the video card but i got a deal on it, and i need color accuracy over response time anyway. .
Next time around you should look into the Quadro line (K1200 for Kepler version and P1000 for lastest and greatest Pascal - same as GTX1080.) They are designed for color accuracy, consistency, etc for design/CAD work. A little pricier than the gaming counterparts but i think you'll find it worth it. I work with a lot of M&E customers and they have all at some point tried to use gaming GPU's to save some money and always revert back. Not to mention the Quadro support is enterprise grade.
Re: Computational Device Technological Discussion Thread - ScottyB - 05-02-2017
Ken Wrote:Next time around you should look into the Quadro line (K1200 for Kepler version and P1000 for lastest and greatest Pascal - same as GTX1080.) They are designed for color accuracy, consistency, etc for design/CAD work. A little pricier than the gaming counterparts but i think you'll find it worth it. I work with a lot of M&E customers and they have all at some point tried to use gaming GPU's to save some money and always revert back. Not to mention the Quadro support is enterprise grade.
i definitely will. the monitor ate up a huge amount of my budget so i had to scale back elsewhere and the card can be swapped out super easy later. i would love to get my hands on something as hardcore as the Quadro stuff
Re: Computational Device Technological Discussion Thread - Ken - 05-02-2017
ScottyB Wrote:Ken Wrote:Next time around you should look into the Quadro line (K1200 for Kepler version and P1000 for lastest and greatest Pascal - same as GTX1080.) They are designed for color accuracy, consistency, etc for design/CAD work. A little pricier than the gaming counterparts but i think you'll find it worth it. I work with a lot of M&E customers and they have all at some point tried to use gaming GPU's to save some money and always revert back. Not to mention the Quadro support is enterprise grade.
i definitely will. the monitor ate up a huge amount of my budget so i had to scale back elsewhere and the card can be swapped out super easy later. i would love to get my hands on something as hardcore as the Quadro stuff
I hear ya - if you set up an alert on CamelCamelCamel for the k1200 on amazon you might be able to snag it for around $260 - certainly not cheap but a great value.
Re: Computational Device Technological Discussion Thread - rherold9 - 05-02-2017
Word of advice the only thing I paid full price for in my build was the 1080TI. Everything else was Amazon warehouse deal or on sale. Wait for holiday sales time. Piece together over a few months. It's worth the dollars you can save.
Re: Computational Device Technological Discussion Thread - ryangreen1 - 05-02-2017
Do you guys really recommend more than 8gb of ram? If I upgrade mine soon idk if it's worth it or needed at 1440p gaming. I have 8 gb now and the only game I have that gets close to using all of it is Kerbal Space Program with 150+mods installed
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Re: Computational Device Technological Discussion Thread - RawrImAMonster - 05-02-2017
For gaming, you probably don't need more than 8gb right now. Some games are listing that as the minimum required now so it wouldn't hurt to upgrade since ram is pretty cheap.
Re: Computational Device Technological Discussion Thread - ryangreen1 - 05-07-2017
![[Image: wQuBuEX.jpg]](http://i.imgur.com/wQuBuEX.jpg)
The ultimate mismatched monitor setup. Who needs desk space.
Re: Computational Device Technological Discussion Thread - Senor_Taylor - 05-08-2017
ryangreen1 Wrote:
The ultimate mismatched monitor setup. Who needs desk space.
Pfft, what's that for? Minecraft?
Re: Computational Device Technological Discussion Thread - ryangreen1 - 05-08-2017
Senor_Taylor Wrote:Pfft, what's that for? Minecraft?
There's no way my computer runs minecraft
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Re: Computational Device Technological Discussion Thread - ScottyB - 05-09-2017
i bet you can do so much hacking on that sick command center
Re: Computational Device Technological Discussion Thread - rherold9 - 05-09-2017
I guess I need to clean my desk and room so I can upload some pictures of my disorganized setup. /r/shittybattlestations incoming.
Re: Computational Device Technological Discussion Thread - davej - 05-31-2017
It was time for a refresh at work so I threw together a new laptop. We're a Dell shop had always been Latitudes, but did a Precision 5520 this time. Not so much a build as pick from a list, but I'm pretty happy with it so far.
- Xeon E3-1505 v6 quad core 3.0GHz
- nvidia m1200
- Dell's 15.6 UltraSharp touch screen, 3840x2160.
- 32GB of DDR4
- M.2 PCIe 256g ssd
I also got a Dell thunderbolt 3 dock which is better than the e-series docks in every way, and can feed 2x 4k or one 5x display, which works well on the Dell UltraSharp U3415w monitor I've had for a couple years. (not quite 4k, but a higher res than the old dock could push)
All in all it makes for an acceptable email box.
Edit: Oh, and a pair of Sennheiser urbanite xl wireless headphones. You know, for Skype..for Business. (but they also do a REALLY good job at drowning out that one annoying co-worker)
Re: Computational Device Technological Discussion Thread - JPolen01 - 05-31-2017
davej Wrote:Edit: Oh, and a pair of Sennheiser urbanite xl wireless headphones. You know, for Skype..for Business. (but they also do a REALLY good job at drowning out that one annoying co-worker)If you are wondering why JMU keeps raising tuition I think we have found part of the answer. Dammit Dave!