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Re: FS: Watches! - Apoc - 10-26-2016
Will I catch ginger if I wear these?
Re: FS: Watches! - Mike - 10-27-2016
.RJ Wrote:Mike Wrote:i can't take it.
watches watchie watch watch.
i will admit some of those are very nice looking, but i still don't get it.
its ok, we dont get portland either
it's hard to get much when you don't leave your bubble.
Re: FS: Watches! - Mike - 10-27-2016
Apoc Wrote:Will I catch ginger if I wear these?
buy the shinolas so i can borrow one.
Re: FS: Watches! - Mike - 10-27-2016
Ginger Wrote:There's nothing really to get. I like wearing a watch. I don't like to wear the same watch everyday. I like nice things.
But the "what's the point in wearing a watch my phone does the same thing better" - and maybe you're not saying that - is just tired and tone deaf. It's akin to asking us why we drive and covet some of the anachronistic cars we do. Because because. We like them. Need another reason? Maybe barking up the wrong tree.
Some guys here like watches, so I figured I might have some luck putting an ad up. If you want motorsports toys... I've got a couple motorcycles I was thinking of selling.
nah, it's not the phone bit. i get that they're a fashion accessory, but can a $100 watch not do the things or look the part of a $1000 watch? what do i not know to look for other than a label or some parts inside that might seep it accurate for 1000 years at 400 million meters and also charge on eli manning's wrist?
Re: FS: Watches! - Ginger - 10-27-2016
I guess I'll try this.
Let's start with not all watches are trying to be the same thing. Not even all moderately priced watches are competing for the same intent. Let's just ignore the cheap, statementless watches (your $20 digitals, for example).
Fashion watches: from a watch snob point of view, a $100 Fossil and $800 Shinola are competing for the same consumers. Shinola is trend and cool and basically just a fashion piece. People that keep up with fashion things will know you're wearing something that's cool and IN with a Shinola, for example, that you won't have the same reaction to a $100 Fossil (just to put it out there, Shinola and Fossil are owned by the same people). Bell and Ross will occupy the same space. Some guys that think they're hot shit and bought a $7,000 Rolex with their first signing bonuses will think these watches are stupid. I don't. I have several Shinolas obviously. As a rule of thumb, quartz watches fall into this category. Quartz is also cheap and easy to produce. And they're really damn accurate. From a timekeeping perspective, they're the bees knees. But obvs watches aren't just about timekeeping.
Automatic watches aren't competing for all the same space, either. If you want to impress a watch person, you can wear an automatic Seiko. They're good, high quality movements that are accurate and don't break easy. Or you could wear an FP Journe to impress watch snobs. Neither is going to impress your average non-watch person. However, both occupy very opposite spaces of the marketplace (cheap and expensive). There are others, like Brooklyn Watch Co which offer watch dude cred, too. Your Rolexes and Omegas and Breitlings occupy this space which is not at all cheap, but has instant recognition with watch and non-watch people alike. It's pretty cool to wear something like, a vintage Omega and have both people that know watches go "man, that thing is *really cool* (like an old MG), and having like, some girl at a bar notice your watch and at least not think you're a fast food cashier.
As for more money for automatics, they do obviously get more accurate, more reliable, etc. the more you spend. Some watches are anti-magnetic which appeals to people in certain environments, etc. You can get more complications for more money (a chrono version of a watch will cost more than a standard, no features one). And you also get fancier operating movements (parts) to gawk at and feel special about.
Part of what I like about them is that I don't need to dedicate a bunch of time/energy to them to just have a hobby with me that I enjoy. It's not like cycling where I won't feel like it's OK for me to have a Speedvagen unless I'm riding 15 hours a week, or that I need to do a trackday to actually enjoy. Plus, if I impress some superficial chick or a broker in my office that all of a sudden takes me more seriously (can't make this shit up), even better.
Re: FS: Watches! - Mike - 10-27-2016
:thumbup: i'm beginning to get it better. lots of variables. thanks.
so you sending me those shinolas for demo purposes or what?
Re: FS: Watches! - .RJ - 10-27-2016
are these still for sale?
Re: FS: Watches! - Ginger - 10-27-2016
.RJ Wrote:are these still for sale?
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Re: FS: Watches! - Apoc - 10-27-2016
Does anyone else think shinola is a terrible name for a fancy product?
Re: FS: Watches! - .RJ - 10-27-2016
Ginger Wrote:.RJ Wrote:are these still for sale?
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Re: FS: Watches! - CaptainHenreh - 10-28-2016
Apoc Wrote:Does anyone else think shinola is a terrible name for a fancy product?
Sounds like Mikey doesn't know shit from shinola, so...maybe?
Re: FS: Watches! - HAULN-SS - 10-28-2016
i mean, if on the one hand there's shit, and the other hand is Shinola...I guess it's a pretty good name
Re: FS: Watches! - WRXtranceformed - 10-28-2016
Ginger Wrote:Thanks, Lee. I can't figure out why - considering I was pretty excited when I got it - but the Breitling doesn't feel very me when I wear it. I was super stoked on their entire brand right up until I wasn't.Assuming you got full asking price for each and rolled it up into one timepiece, you have tons of options. You could pick up a different Breitling like the Avenger or possibly a Navitimer on the used market (<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://forums.watchuseek.com/f29/fsot-breitling-avenger-gmt-ii-new-condition-w-warranty-all-boxes-papers-3662610.html">http://forums.watchuseek.com/f29/fsot-b ... 62610.html</a><!-- m -->)
I'm torn on a couple replacements, but I tend to waste money and it's not the worst idea to just put it in the bank...
There are tons of grey-market new Oris you could look at (and put some money back in the bank), I loved mine. Or even Grand Seiko if you want to go real "Watch Idiot Savant". There would be some pristine used Omegas in that range too (Seamaster, Planet Ocean). My last plug would be for a nice Steinhart, I am completely in love with the one I found. Really great build quality, movement and materials for the price (sapphire bezel?! whaaa) and you could throw a chunk of that cash back in the bank.
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Anyway have you tried the Watchuseek for sale forum? I've had a lot of luck selling every watch I've put on there. There is a post limit of I think 100 posts before you can list something for sale now, but it's definitely worth it. Huge audience of people who are constantly flipping and trying new watches.
Re: FS: Watches! - DavidL - 10-28-2016
WRXtranceformed Wrote:Anyway have you tried the Watchuseek for sale forum? I've had a lot of luck selling every watch I've put on there. There is a post limit of I think 100 posts before you can list something for sale now, but it's definitely worth it. Huge audience of people who are constantly flipping and trying new watches.
Even better - have you tried watchrecon.com? Great for scanning the market/getting tabs on pricing. Ive lost many an evening...
Re: FS: Watches! - WRXtranceformed - 10-28-2016
DavidL Wrote:Yeah that's a great suggestion, in fact I think I found that Ocean Forty Four on watchrecon which had crawled Watchuseek and dug up an old expired thread. The guy never ended up selling it or withdrew it I think...I direct messaged him and convinced him to sell it to me!WRXtranceformed Wrote:Anyway have you tried the Watchuseek for sale forum? I've had a lot of luck selling every watch I've put on there. There is a post limit of I think 100 posts before you can list something for sale now, but it's definitely worth it. Huge audience of people who are constantly flipping and trying new watches.
Even better - have you tried watchrecon.com? Great for scanning the market/getting tabs on pricing. Ive lost many an evening...
Re: FS: Watches! - Mike - 10-28-2016
CaptainHenreh Wrote:Apoc Wrote:Does anyone else think shinola is a terrible name for a fancy product?
Sounds like Mikey doesn't know shit from shinola, so...maybe?
buzz wrong. they make bikes. i know a lot about them.
Re: FS: Watches! - Ginger - 10-28-2016
DavidL Wrote:Even better - have you tried watchrecon.com? Great for scanning the market/getting tabs on pricing. Ive lost many an evening...
Goddammit. I've wasted a ton of time on WUS, but this is going to be an even more miserable time sink. I rarely participate in any forums anymore, so reaching their 100 post count to open up the classifieds probably won't happen any time soon.
I bounce all over the place on replacements. Your Steinhart is quite the looker, but I have an SKX175 Pepsi already so it would kind of duplicate that. A GMT Master II would be amazing, but it's more than I'm looking to spend right now, and I want to make sure I get a good example, not one that needs to go to Rolex for service right away. I wanted a Breitling Colt for a long time since one of the guys that I first looked to for advice on watches wore one a lot, but I haven't felt compelled to buy anything in their range since.
I don't need a new watch. I've got a couple nerd budget options (I just put my orange Monster on an Omega Barenia nato and I'm really proud of myself for being so clever), some things that just put a smile on my face, and two very nice Omegas (a wave dial SMP and a 300 Chrono). But I still look a lot for fun. I just pitched the Breitling to Jomashop's trade-up program and we'll see what they offer me (if anything). I said I'd apply the credit to a Seamaster 300. I could definitely live with that. But I was also eyeing a couple of the flashy dialed Speedmasters. Or maybe an Oyster Perpetual 36 with the concentric dial.
I was looking at a Bell & Ross 39mm square (BRS quartz), but people constantly say nasty things about them and it made me hesitate. What's the opinion on the look? I think I recall a bunch of guys here hating them. They make a round heritage with an Eta movement too, which I often come back to.
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Re: FS: Watches! - WRXtranceformed - 10-29-2016
Ginger Wrote:Nice choices all around!! I'm glad I finally have someone here to really nerd out with on timepieces :lol:DavidL Wrote:Even better - have you tried watchrecon.com? Great for scanning the market/getting tabs on pricing. Ive lost many an evening...
Goddammit. I've wasted a ton of time on WUS, but this is going to be an even more miserable time sink. I rarely participate in any forums anymore, so reaching their 100 post count to open up the classifieds probably won't happen any time soon.
I bounce all over the place on replacements. Your Steinhart is quite the looker, but I have an SKX175 Pepsi already so it would kind of duplicate that. A GMT Master II would be amazing, but it's more than I'm looking to spend right now, and I want to make sure I get a good example, not one that needs to go to Rolex for service right away. I wanted a Breitling Colt for a long time since one of the guys that I first looked to for advice on watches wore one a lot, but I haven't felt compelled to buy anything in their range since.
I don't need a new watch. I've got a couple nerd budget options (I just put my orange Monster on an Omega Barenia nato and I'm really proud of myself for being so clever), some things that just put a smile on my face, and two very nice Omegas (a wave dial SMP and a 300 Chrono). But I still look a lot for fun. I just pitched the Breitling to Jomashop's trade-up program and we'll see what they offer me (if anything). I said I'd apply the credit to a Seamaster 300. I could definitely live with that. But I was also eyeing a couple of the flashy dialed Speedmasters. Or maybe an Oyster Perpetual 36 with the concentric dial.
I was looking at a Bell & Ross 39mm square (BRS quartz), but people constantly say nasty things about them and it made me hesitate. What's the opinion on the look? I think I recall a bunch of guys here hating them. They make a round heritage with an Eta movement too, which I often come back to.
Good call on the Seiko, I have the timeless SKX007 and it's one out my favorite daily drivers. The GMT Master II (in two tone) is one of my grails but I'm in the same boat, would have a hard time justifying that much on a watch any time soon. Maybe as a retirement gift to myself ha.
I personally like B&R and that one looks good IMO, but what I will say is my old boss who got me into watches picked one up after he lusted after them for a while. He scooped the all carbon fiber one: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.authenticwatches.com/bell-ross-br-01-94-carbon-phantom.html#.WBSaxMspDqA">http://www.authenticwatches.com/bell-ro ... BSaxMspDqA</a><!-- m -->
After wearing it for a while he really never bonded with it, kind of the same situation you had with the Breitling. He ended up selling / trading it, which in his case worked out ok because he get a killer deal on it from a local jeweler who got it on trade and mispriced it. So I don't know that it would happen to you but B&R is one of those brands that I think has some allure but may not be as interesting to live with, especially at that price point with so many options. I know Panerais have been plummeting in value, especially on the used market and even though they aren't my style they have that similar beefy, high domed sapphire look and a lot more history behind the name...I bet you could find a great example if you were so inclined
Re: FS: Watches! - G.Irish - 10-29-2016
What nasty things do people say about B&R's? That a square is a tacky shape?
Personally I want to pick up a B&R Radar at some point.
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Re: FS: Watches! - Ginger - 10-29-2016
WRXtranceformed Wrote:Nice choices all around!! I'm glad I finally have someone here to really nerd out with on timepieces :lol:
For serious! My friends basically do not give a crap and are tired of hearing about it.
WRXtranceformed Wrote:Good call on the Seiko, I have the timeless SKX007 and it's one out my favorite daily drivers.
How does it wear? I love my 175 and it's gotten some compliments and I love the way it wears. But I had an SNZH55J1 and had to return it because it wore a lot larger then the dimensions would suggest. Same with my Monster.
WRXtranceformed Wrote:After wearing it for a while he really never bonded with it, kind of the same situation you had with the Breitling.
Thanks for the tip. I think That actually puts it out of the running for me. I'll leave the BR123 on it for a while, though.
G.Irish Wrote:What nasty things do people say about B&R's? That a square is a tacky shape?
Personally I want to pick up a B&R Radar at some point.
Mostly, watch nerds are calling them a fashion brand. I don't know if they ever transition to their own movements, but they use Eta movements (like in the BR123) and apparently have tried to create heritage through marketing where there isn't any. I'm not sure why that's a problem, but to them it is. I think you've got the swagger to wear a full size radar but I definitely don't. Pretty cool, though.