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This will hit you right in the feels - Father's Day Gift - Printable Version

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Re: This will hit you right in the feels - Father's Day Gift - Senor_Taylor - 06-26-2015

Oh whoops. I totally read your original post as "944", my bad.

A surprising amount of people autocross those 914s.


Re: This will hit you right in the feels - Father's Day Gift - rherold9 - 06-26-2015

Senor_Taylor Wrote:Oh whoops. I totally read your original post as "944", my bad.

A surprising amount of people autocross those 914s.
I'm guessing they weigh nothing. They look like tin cans with wheels.

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Re: This will hit you right in the feels - Father's Day Gift - SlimKlim - 06-26-2015

Do you people read? 2150lbs curb weight.


Re: This will hit you right in the feels - Father's Day Gift - .RJ - 06-26-2015

SlimKlim Wrote:Do you people read?

I'm just here for the gifs.

Speaking of that, Goodspeed, ahem, its Friday...


Re: This will hit you right in the feels - Father's Day Gift - rherold9 - 06-26-2015

SlimKlim Wrote:Do you people read? 2150lbs curb weight.
Nope, don't feel like searching.

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Re: This will hit you right in the feels - Father's Day Gift - SlimKlim - 06-26-2015

Good Lord. It's the last line of the last post of the previous page.

SlimKlim Wrote:Plus the $7200 scooby swap kit, plus an EJ20, plus good brakes and tires. 227hp and 2150lb curb weight. That's plenty with manual steering and brakes.



Re: This will hit you right in the feels - Father's Day Gift - rherold9 - 06-26-2015

SlimKlim Wrote:Good Lord. It's the last line of the last post of the previous page.

SlimKlim Wrote:Plus the $7200 scooby swap kit, plus an EJ20, plus good brakes and tires. 227hp and 2150lb curb weight. That's plenty with manual steering and brakes.
So, I found the weight. It's 2150 pounds. Makes sense why they autocross them.

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Re: This will hit you right in the feels - Father's Day Gift - SlimKlim - 06-26-2015

Must've been tricky to find those old stats. Wink


Re: This will hit you right in the feels - Father's Day Gift - BLINGMW - 06-26-2015

Do you think the 914 would be good for autocrossing? I wonder what it weighs? Did they make a wagon version?


Re: This will hit you right in the feels - Father's Day Gift - Ken - 06-26-2015

BLINGMW Wrote:Do you think the 914 would be good for autocrossing? I wonder what it weighs? Did they make a wagon version?

Probably - I bet it'd be even better though if you somehow got a 6 cylinder in there. Not sure why that hasn't been suggested yet.


Re: This will hit you right in the feels - Father's Day Gift - SlimKlim - 06-26-2015

Yeah but it only came in brown with a turbodiesel and a dual clutch.

FUN FACT. Well, probably not that fun for most people, but I'm an automated-manual fetishist. The Porsche 914/6 Sportomatic is one of the rarest Porsches in existence with 5 factory models produced. It removed the clutch pedal and used a torque converter to transfer power, and the shifter had a microswitch on it that would operate the clutch when you pushed down on the shifter slightly.

Quote:In 1968, the Sportomatic semi-automatic 4-speed was introduced as an optional transmission to the standard 5-speed manual on the 911T and E. (though there were approximately 5 Sportomatic 914s made) It was quite an interesting design indeed. Porsche took their type 905 transmission and modified it to contain a torque converter along with a vacuum operated clutch.

When a driver changes gear, he simply grabs the shift knob and selects a different ratio. Beneath the shift knob, there is a micro switch that is triggered when the knob is depressed slightly. The switch then activates a vacuum valve that in turn operates a vacuum diaphragm. This diaphragm then operates the clutch and thus allowing the changing of gears and therefore eliminating the need for a clutch pedal. Before power from the engine reaches the clutch, it flows through a torque converter. This allows the driver to stop without putting the transmission in neutral. A feature that is particularly helpful in stop-and-go driving. Though the Sportomatic is a ‘clutch-less manual’, the ratios in the transmission are not shown as 1,2,3,4 and so on. Instead, Sportomatic ratios include L, D, D3, and D4. Furthermore there is a Park feature, as on an automatic, and naturally reverse.

Porsche’s period brochures indicate how to chose the correct gear:

L (Low): For ascending and descending steep grades or for slush, mud and snow.

D (Drive): Normal driving from 0-60 miles per hour. For rapid acceleration, the transmission can be shifted through all ratios like a typical manual transmission.

D3 & D4: For highway cruising. D4 is essentially overdrive, while D3 can be used for passing and downshifting under braking.

P (Park): This is necessary since due to the torque converter there is no mechanical link between the engine and transmission.

R (Reverse): Acts as it would in an automatic. It can only be selected if the car is at a complete stop. Slight increase in engine speed may be necessary to actually move the car.

http://ranwhenparked.net/2009/02/11/what-lies-beneath-porsche-sportomatic/

http://www.thisweekinmotors.com/porsche-9146-sportomatic-one-of-the-rarest-porsches-ever-built/


I don't know why, but I really enjoy reading about early semi-automatic transmissions. I'd really like to try and drive a 911 Sportomatic if I ever meet someone that owns one, same with the Saab Sensonic that was offered on 900 Turbos in 95-96.


Re: This will hit you right in the feels - Father's Day Gift - BLINGMW - 06-26-2015

SlimKlim Wrote:vacuum operated
That's how you know it's gonna be good. :mrgreen:

lol
[Image: sporto_knob.jpg]


Re: This will hit you right in the feels - Father's Day Gift - Senor_Taylor - 06-26-2015

That takes PRNDL to a new level.

The PRLDDD


Re: This will hit you right in the feels - Father's Day Gift - rherold9 - 06-26-2015

BLINGMW Wrote:Do you think the 914 would be good for autocrossing? I wonder what it weighs? Did they make a wagon version?
A lot of people autocross them. Probably light that's why a lot of people autocross them. No.

Big Grin

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