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Madison Motorsports
The market is BEGGING.... - Printable Version

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Re: The market is BEGGING.... - Evan - 11-30-2011

toyota's version definitely looks better to me than subaru's

the subaru just looks a little bland. and im still digging that interior


Re: The market is BEGGING.... - G.Irish - 11-30-2011

Supposedly the cars go on sale in March so pricing info can't be that far off. I'm thinking they'll reveal pricing at Detroit. My guess is that it's gonna be between 22-25 for the base model and maybe up to 26ish for the premium model with HID's, upgraded stereo, etc.


Re: The market is BEGGING.... - ScottyB - 11-30-2011

ditto, the yota is looking better than the suby right now. interested to see how they'd compare after some TRD/STi treatment.


Re: The market is BEGGING.... - Ken - 11-30-2011

Motor trend article stated the BRZ will start somewhere around the same starting price as a Base WRX which to me seems stupid but whatever...


Re: The market is BEGGING.... - .RJ - 11-30-2011

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Re: The market is BEGGING.... - ScottyB - 11-30-2011

love the oil filter location, subaru sure knows how to make an oil change easy. don't like thinking about what changing those spark plugs will be like.

equal length headers, so it will sound like any other 7500rpm 4 banger noise.

what are the other engines on the stands? possible turbo models to come later?

i'm interested to see if they do a "clubsport" model ala miata/s2000/solstice. throw out the lux items, racing seats, minimal interior....2300 lbs. shouldn't be hard. looks like plenty of room for big brakes and tires.


Re: The market is BEGGING.... - BLINGMW - 11-30-2011

looks great
love all the detailed pics
what's that rather large hose coming off the 90deg bend in the intake? Is that just PCV valve? Seems large for some reason. :dunno:
serviceability looks pretty darn good on that engine. I guess other non-turbo subies are that way? Well, except plugs, doing a compression test, or replacing the valve cover gasket(s) I guess....


Re: The market is BEGGING.... - ScottyB - 11-30-2011

BLINGMW Wrote:what's that rather large hose coming off the 90deg bend in the intake? Is that just PCV valve? Seems large for some reason. :dunno:

i was wondering the exact same thing. EGR probably wouldn't make sense so i guess PCV?

BLINGMW Wrote:serviceability looks pretty darn good on that engine. I guess other non-turbo subies are that way? Well, except plugs, doing a compression test, or replacing the valve cover gasket(s) I guess....

routine maintenance stuff is mega easy...all the accessories are in your face since it's longitudinal and filters are cake. plugs/gaskets on the N/A's are easier than you'd think but the impreza chassis has alot more width than this, or so it looks.

now if they can just keep the damn HG's from crapping the bed....


Re: The market is BEGGING.... - Evan - 11-30-2011

ScottyB Wrote:i'm interested to see if they do a "clubsport" model ala miata/s2000/solstice. throw out the lux items, racing seats, minimal interior....2300 lbs. shouldn't be hard. looks like plenty of room for big brakes and tires.
it looks that way already to me. especially the toyota version.
no video screens, luxo items, fancy trip computers, not even steering wheel audio controls.

sadly, i think this will be a turnoff to people and will affect the sales of the car
people still like comfort and conveniences with their sports cars.
even the ~17k subcompacts have bluetooth, voice control, and big LCD screens now


Re: The market is BEGGING.... - caa337 - 11-30-2011

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Re: The market is BEGGING.... - JustinG - 11-30-2011

wheres the smokey burnouts and drifting around turns?


Re: The market is BEGGING.... - caa337 - 12-01-2011

Yeah, idk but hopefully we see pricing + more video footage along with lap times soon.


Re: The market is BEGGING.... - G.Irish - 12-01-2011

Don't think you'll see lap times until magazines start getting their hands on them. This is not the class of car where Nurburgring dick swinging applies so it wouldn't really help sales to release lap times. I'll bet R&T and the like will toss it into an affordable sports car comparo sometime in the spring though.


Re: The market is BEGGING.... - Steve85 - 12-01-2011

Evan Wrote:no video screens, luxo items, fancy trip computers, not even steering wheel audio controls.

sadly, i think this will be a turnoff to people and will affect the sales of the car
people still like comfort and conveniences with their sports cars.
even the ~17k subcompacts have bluetooth, voice control, and big LCD screens now

so eventually...

CaptainHenreh Wrote:It's gonna be fat, slow, and expensive.



Re: The market is BEGGING.... - BLINGMW - 12-01-2011

JustinG Wrote:wheres the smokey burnouts and drifting around turns?
It.... is drifting. 0:55


Re: The market is BEGGING.... - JustinG - 12-01-2011

BLINGMW Wrote:
JustinG Wrote:wheres the smokey burnouts and drifting around turns?
It.... is drifting. 0:55

Thanks for that, i'll be honest, only watched the first 15 seconds, :yawn:


Re: The market is BEGGING.... - BLINGMW - 12-01-2011

damn young folks these days, no attention span! :lol:


Re: The market is BEGGING.... - ScottyB - 12-01-2011

as is tradition, the Japanese once again manage to put us all to sleep by combining fairly nice footage with totally ill fitting muzak. see Gran Turismo 5 trailer for example

at least give the car a proper introduction that makes people...excited?


Re: The market is BEGGING.... - Goodspeed - 12-01-2011

ScottyB Wrote:as is tradition, the Japanese once again manage to put us all to sleep by combining fairly nice footage with totally ill fitting muzak. see Gran Turismo 5 trailer for example

at least give the car a proper introduction that makes people...excited?

LOL, so true. This one is the worst

Toyota Supra commercial


Re: The market is BEGGING.... - ScottyB - 12-01-2011

what is that i don't even