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RE: "home false sense of security" :P - Evan - 12-14-2018
There is a lot more to home automation than lights.
I dont do lights, but if you do, IMO the best way to go is the switches and/or plugs, not bulbs. Its cheaper and controls multiple lights at one point. If you use the bulbs, they dont work if you accidentally flip the switch off.
RE: "home false sense of security" :P - Apoc - 12-14-2018
(12-14-2018, 12:55 PM)ViPER1313 Wrote: My light switches don’t lose sync to my router when the power goes out.
Cool story bro... except that's not an actual problem I've experienced.
I should note that everything we have on voice control are lights not located on a wall switch outlet.
Anything that's automated is z-wave switches, outlets, or bulbs.
RE: "home false sense of security" :P - .RJ - 12-14-2018
(12-14-2018, 01:15 PM)Apoc Wrote: Anything that's automated is z-wave switches, outlets, or bulbs.
How much for a ZJ
RE: "home false sense of security" :P - JustinG - 12-19-2018
(12-14-2018, 09:35 AM)JPolen01 Wrote:Oh, I've gone completely overboard, and im ok with it. Cause I nerd out over this stuff.(12-13-2018, 09:23 PM).RJ Wrote: Did y'all go to college so you dont have to use light switches like peasants
It sure seems like a few here spend a lot of money so they can yell at their lights. I don't see the need. Each time it comes up I read what everyone is doing trying to understand but I just don't.
Bulbs/plug in outlets are the cheapest way to automate @ $15-20 per. Great for lamps, Christmas lights etc.
Switches are more at like $40 per, but good for controlling groups. Example, all of my kitchen led cans are on a Zwave dimmer. Some outdoor lights are on switches, and automated to turn on at sunset, or when a door opens, doorbell rings, etc.
I consider it a hobby, just like guns, watches, cars, cocaine.
"home false sense of security" :P - Sully - 12-19-2018
I'm looking at some dimmers now. Wifi cause I don't have a hub. I like the wemo ones but doesn't look like theres a way to make them work 3 way which like all my lights are. Leviton makes one that you can get a matching remote switch to occupy and control the second switch so although they don't look as sleek, might go that route. They also look slightly smaller and all my switch boxes are multi so that may help them fit. Otherwise, maybe the zwave ones are smaller?
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RE: "home false sense of security" :P - Deceus - 01-04-2019
Just pulled the trigger on a Nest doorbell and their lock. Going to finally get around to posting the spare room up on AirBnb so mostly just looking for keyless entry at the moment. The closest thing I see to any real competition is charging $75/night, has 0 availability for the next 3 months and the room isn't nearly as nice.
Going to be fun trying to wire it up given I currently do not have any sort of doorbell. It seems pretty simple, I just have to drill a hole and run the wiring to an indoor transformer instead of a chime. From there I think I just have to disable the chime and use the Google home mini for that.
Might look into their security system in the future.
RE: "home false sense of security" :P - JPolen01 - 01-04-2019
Does the one you purchase have a battery option? A friend of mine has a Nest or Ring (can't remember) and it's completely wireless. She said it holds a charge for about 3 weeks. Might be a hassle to charge it once a month, but may be less of a hassle then wiring it up.
RE: "home false sense of security" :P - Deceus - 01-04-2019
(01-04-2019, 10:39 AM)JPolen01 Wrote: Does the one you purchase have a battery option? A friend of mine has a Nest or Ring (can't remember) and it's completely wireless. She said it holds a charge for about 3 weeks. Might be a hassle to charge it once a month, but may be less of a hassle then wiring it up.
Ring has the internal battery options, Nest isn't there yet. The lock is battery operated and can be jumped with a 9v to enter a pin and get in the house if you're dumb enough to let it die completely. The only part that makes me nervous is drilling the hole into the interior so I can run wires to an outlet. I trust myself to get it done but I'm not sure I can do it pretty.
Current plan is to come at it from the inside, drywall is a lot easier to fix than cedar siding. I'll probably cut a small window in the drywall so I'm not working blind and go from there. I'd like to just run the wires to the outlet by the door but I'm sure there's a stud in the way. I may just run the wires straight down to something like this: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Eaton-1-Gang-Recessed-Multimedia-Cable-Wall-Plate-White-35M1W-SP-L/203492457 and just route it along the baseboard to make it easy/idiotproof. Not sure there's a better way to make 2 small wires coming out of drywall appear more presentable.
RE: "home false sense of security" :P - Deceus - 01-11-2019
Installed everything today since I had some downtime. Ended up just going through the door trim since I figured it'd be easier to fill and repaint if I ever needed to. Wanted to fish the wire out the side of the trim on the interior side but just going to leave it like it is for now.
Just took a 1/4" X 12" drill bit, a 24v transformer and some 18/2 wire
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Audio is probably what has impressed me the most so far. Heard the car pull up and the gf yelling at the kid in the driveway.
"home false sense of security" :P - JPolen01 - 01-11-2019
Looks good! They picture quality is impressive. Once of these is on my list of things to do before the baby arrives.
"home false sense of security" :P - JustinG - 01-11-2019
Great idea, cause you can silence the bell when you want. ie naptime.
"home false sense of security" :P - Sully - 01-16-2019
Not sure which thread is more popular right now but if anyone comes across deals like they had right after Christmas for a nest hello, I may be looking if the deal is good enough. They were doing alot of bundles after the holidays with significantly lower prices. Ideal would be a hub and a hello.
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"home false sense of security" :P - JPolen01 - 01-16-2019
Can someone give me the cliff notes for ring vs nest doorbells? Don't feel like looking through pages of you all nerding out about yelling at your light bulbs.
RE: "home false sense of security" :P - .RJ - 01-16-2019
The thing that irritates me about the nest is that thermostat cant also double as the 'hub' for the other devices and you have to buy an extra thing.
"home false sense of security" :P - JustinG - 01-16-2019
Nest over Ring.
Just swapped to it from my FP/Skybell.
Not sure what RJ is referring to as a nest thermostat being the hub?
"home false sense of security" :P - Sully - 01-16-2019
Maybe for the nest security system? I guess that would be convenient
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RE: "home false sense of security" :P - Deceus - 01-21-2019
I can see why they didn't go that route. Maybe down the road they'll offer some kind of combo unit but to combine them both into one would probably price them out of range for anybody looking for just one of those 2 devices. They were probably also trying to keep the design of the thermostat clean. Having a keypad and alarm integrated would make it pretty bulky for someone just looking for a smart thermostat even if they could make the price competitive.
The security system is $400 on it's own though and only comes with 2 sensors, the hub and 2 "tags". Adding 4 more sensors adds $200. That is pretty steep and I won't be taking that plunge until I'm ready to get a few cameras in the mix because they do take a good bit off the price when you bundle things. For example I could've (and probably should've) added the security system, 1 outdoor camera, 1 indoor camera and 2 extra sensors (4 total) for an extra $600 on top of what I paid. So basically 2 free cameras.
"home false sense of security" [emoji14] - JPolen01 - 03-01-2020
What's everyone using these days? Are we still jacking off to Front Point?
RE: "home false sense of security" :P - Jake - 03-01-2020
My parents are on Simplisafe and it's worked out really well for them. Door sensors, motion/glass break sensors, and doorbell camera and back porch camera all from SS and work well.
"home false sense of security" [emoji14] - D_Eclipse9916 - 03-01-2020
Love our SimpliSafe setup