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RE: Automotive News Discussion - SlimKlim - 07-24-2019
Forget the golf clubs, how about a mid-engine sports car with a rear seat/shelf large enough to safely transport a 70lb dog? That's the dream.
RE: Automotive News Discussion - Senor_Taylor - 07-24-2019
(07-24-2019, 02:07 PM)SlimKlim Wrote: Forget the golf clubs, how about a mid-engine sports car with a rear seat/shelf large enough to safely transport a 70lb dog? That's the dream.Most people just let their girlfriend sit in the passenger seat.
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RE: Automotive News Discussion - JPolen01 - 07-24-2019
(07-24-2019, 02:06 PM)Sijray21 Wrote:(07-24-2019, 11:59 AM).RJ Wrote: i wont buy a c8 because i cant fit a bicycle in it
is that the same reason you won't by a 911?
![[Image: 55d6ef1593da95d702286254b3b80d37774315b3...60fff3.jpg]](http://www.quickmeme.com/img/55/55d6ef1593da95d702286254b3b80d37774315b3714a87d5e85e73564260fff3.jpg)
Automotive News Discussion - JPolen01 - 07-24-2019
How does BMW justify charging an $80 per year subscription for CarPlay when no other manufacturer does? Do they think this will set a new trend. I think not. What pompous assholes.
https://www.thedrive.com/news/29134/bmw-is-charging-owners-an-80-annual-subscription-fee-to-use-apple-carplay
RE: Automotive News Discussion - .RJ - 07-24-2019
(07-24-2019, 03:11 PM)JPolen01 Wrote:(07-24-2019, 02:06 PM)Sijray21 Wrote:(07-24-2019, 11:59 AM).RJ Wrote: i wont buy a c8 because i cant fit a bicycle in it
is that the same reason you won't by a 911?
pwn3d
RE: Automotive News Discussion - Apoc - 07-24-2019
(07-24-2019, 05:29 PM)JPolen01 Wrote: How does BMW justify charging an $80 per year subscription for CarPlay when no other manufacturer does? Do they think this will set a new trend. I think not. What pompous assholes.
https://www.thedrive.com/news/29134/bmw-is-charging-owners-an-80-annual-subscription-fee-to-use-apple-carplay
When you're spending $40k, $50k, $60k on a car you don't give a shit about two tanks of gas per year to get a feature you want to work. Similarly, if you want that BMW you probably aren't not going to buy it because of an $80/year fee.
Automotive News Discussion - JPolen01 - 07-24-2019
^That doesn't make it any less absurd. CarPlay comes standard in Hyundai. This is nothing more than a cash grab. Why not roll it into the cost of the vehicle?
RE: Automotive News Discussion - Senor_Taylor - 07-24-2019
(07-24-2019, 07:50 PM)JPolen01 Wrote: ^That doesn't make it any less absurd. CarPlay comes standard in Hyundai. This is nothing more than a cash grab. Why not roll it into the cost of the vehicle?Because the last time BMW had a soul was 1998
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Automotive News Discussion - JustinG - 07-24-2019
I bet you get it free for 3 years just like their nav updates and other subscription services through idrive.
RE: Automotive News Discussion - Apoc - 07-24-2019
You asked to justify it, not whether it was absurd.
The days of automakers maintaining their own infotainment operating systems is coming to an end. Thankfully.
Automotive News Discussion - JustinG - 07-24-2019
I pay the $50 a year for the online capabilities, just so i can do google online searches for POI direct through the idrive vs the out of date POI on the nav. Even running the latest map update
Automotive News Discussion - JPolen01 - 07-25-2019
(07-24-2019, 08:55 PM)JustinG Wrote: I bet you get it free for 3 years just like their nav updates and other subscription services through idrive.
You don't. You can pay $80 a year or an upfront, sightly discounted rate for a longer term.
RE: Automotive News Discussion - rherold9 - 07-29-2019
All 8 cars that can hit 60mph in 3 seconds for less than $70k
RE: Automotive News Discussion - Jake - 07-30-2019
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I've been driving this for a week. It is very good and the exhaust makes loud blappappappap noises if you run it against the rev limiter in Sport mode. Pretty wild that Hyundai is putting out something with legit performance parts on it (mechanical LSD, active exhaust, adaptive dampers, big brakes) and it's $29k with a 5/60 bumper to bumper warranty and 10/100 powertrain warranty.
RE: Automotive News Discussion - .RJ - 07-30-2019
Jake I need a ride in this when do you give it back? Beers on me...
RE: Automotive News Discussion - Sijray21 - 07-30-2019
(07-30-2019, 08:40 AM)Jake Wrote:
I've been driving this for a week. It is very good and the exhaust makes loud blappappappap noises if you run it against the rev limiter in Sport mode. Pretty wild that Hyundai is putting out something with legit performance parts on it (mechanical LSD, active exhaust, adaptive dampers, big brakes) and it's $29k with a 5/60 bumper to bumper warranty and 10/100 powertrain warranty.
all that for under $30k MSRP is amazing; i hope it does well for sales in the US.
RE: Automotive News Discussion - ScottyB - 07-30-2019
i don't even see the N as a type-R competitor at that price, more of a GTI/Si/WRX fighter. if i was in the market for a new hatch i'd want that bad. actually fun on the street plus that insane warranty...
RE: Automotive News Discussion - SlimKlim - 07-30-2019
(07-30-2019, 09:26 AM)Sijray21 Wrote: all that for under $30k MSRP is amazing; i hope it does well for sales in the US.
I think we all came to an agreement on Sunday that calling it a Type-R fighter is extremely optimistic on Hyundai's part.
I liked it a lot, it's cute as hell on the outside, sounds amazing, interior completely sucks. The only real problem I see with this car is the fact that these exist:
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=503417166&zip=22201&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D22201%26listingTypes%3DNEW%26sortBy%3DderivedpriceDESC%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26marketExtension%3Don%26modelCodeList%3DGTI%26makeCodeList%3DVOLKS%26searchRadius%3D0%26trimCodeList%3DGTI%257CSE%26transmissionCodes%3DMAN&listingTypes=NEW&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&modelCodeList=GTI&makeCodeList=VOLKS&searchRadius=0&clickType=spotlight
Even though the sticker price is higher on the GTI you can get out out the door for the same price. And when it comes down to brass tacts, you're talking about a 50hp gain in exchange for ALL of the interior quality and ride comfort. If you throw a JB4 into the mix, I think the GTI is also faster, just without the rise krispies soundtrack.
I could definitely see this tempting people who would've bought 2020 Focus STs, maybe it could temp people out of some Civic Sis thanks to the major power bump, but I don't think the GTI is sweating.
Automotive News Discussion - Senor_Taylor - 07-30-2019
I definitely think it can steal some Civic SI people, but the SI is so stupid cheap that even the low price of the Hyundai won't beat it. I don't think people that like the looks of the GTI will cross over to buying a funky Hyundai.
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Automotive News Discussion - Sully - 07-30-2019
I wish it had 4 doors... Or 2. I like symmetry in cars
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