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- mrbaggio - 10-20-2008
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- CaptainHenreh - 10-20-2008
Ok, I'm confused:
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I've always felt this way, and the interviewer/talking head seemed to act like there was something wrong there.
There's a reason "Northern Virginia" is so often referred to separately from the rest of the state, and it's got nothing to do with geography.
- stevegula - 10-20-2008
It's hilarious that he said "I'm going to let you climb in off this ledge". I think his issue is that she said "real Virginia".
But you're right, and so is she - There's "NoVA" and there's "real Virginia". There's the blue part and the red part. Geographically, that blue part is small. Population wise, that blue part is bigger.
- CaptainHenreh - 10-20-2008
But...I don't even have a problem with her using the term "Real Virginia".
She's not wrong.
I mean, this part of Virginia has some of the richest history in the goddamn country, and half it's residents historical knowledge ends at "George Washington cut down a cherry tree and then didn't lie about it."
Really I guess it boils down to large cities vs rural areas, but we all know McCain has been pushing this strategy of "Keepin' it rural" by advertising "Real America" as "Not in a City, America".
- G.Irish - 10-20-2008
CaptainHenreh Wrote:Ok, I'm confused:
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I've always felt this way, and the interviewer/talking head seemed to act like there was something wrong there.
There's a reason "Northern Virginia" is so often referred to separately from the rest of the state, and it's got nothing to do with geography.
Haha, that came off as a "You people???" moment. When the interviewee explained herself it made more sense although it was still a little bit of an awkward way to say it. "I'm just sayin'..."
- CaptainHenreh - 10-20-2008
G.Irish Wrote:CaptainHenreh Wrote:Ok, I'm confused:
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I've always felt this way, and the interviewer/talking head seemed to act like there was something wrong there.
There's a reason "Northern Virginia" is so often referred to separately from the rest of the state, and it's got nothing to do with geography.
Haha, that came off as a "You people???" moment. When the interviewee explained herself it made more sense although it was still a little bit of an awkward way to say it. "I'm just sayin'..."
Yeah, I guess. But she's from Oakton...so she's even saying that she isn't from "Real Virginia".
- Kaan - 10-20-2008
Everyone knows Oakton isnt really NOVA... we have horse farms and shit!
- .RJ - 10-20-2008
^ Bullshit.
- REED - 10-20-2008
CaptainHenreh Wrote:But...I don't even have a problem with her using the term "Real Virginia".
She's not wrong.
now i'm not even from virginia - but I can see how "some" people would take offense to that. I feel like i could make some wild assumptions that you are from "real" virginia, and one of those people that hates NOVA and why do I feel that if someone refered to NOVA as "real" virginia you would take offense to that
I agree that the two areas are vastly different, but I wouldn't go so far as to say as one is "real" verses "fake"
- CaptainHenreh - 10-20-2008
REED Wrote:I agree that the two areas are vastly different, but I wouldn't go so far as to say as one is "real" verses "fake"
I dunno...maybe I would...if I were trying to make a point.
I mean, saying that NoVA is "Real Virginia" is like saying the New York Metro Area is "Real New York".
We all know that's bullshit, most of New York (state) is nothing like New York City. If I were trying to make a point, I'd definitely say that Everything-but-NYC is "Real New York".
- REED - 10-20-2008
yeah i guess i see the point you aren't trying to make :wink:
i guess it is just a semantics issue - using the word "real" to describe one area seems to have a condesending tone about all the other areas, regardless of size of popluation
- Evan - 10-20-2008
Damn straight its condescending, all you damn yankee immigrants GTFO of my state!
- Feersty - 10-20-2008
Wow. Are once permanent DC residents really moving into NOVA? I never heard that. Can they afford it?
- Evan - 10-20-2008
The non-ghetto areas of DC are more expensive than NoVA.
- Evan - 10-20-2008
not VP related but since this is the current political thread....
someone said in another thread (that was locked) that Obama's race hurts him. I said it helps him.
Gallup poll says its about even, or possibly helps him a bit.
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- JackoliciousLegs - 10-20-2008
mrbaggio Wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caGjG_9nFwYdasvidanya baby!
- Goodspeed - 10-20-2008
CaptainHenreh Wrote:But...I don't even have a problem with her using the term "Real Virginia".
She's not wrong
I busted out laughing when the news anchor countered her. To me at least it really came across in a derogatory manner; besides what you and I might think of the NoVA/VA debate, it seemed to me as if she was side-stepping metro-DC residents to covet joe-sixpack biblebeater mcdrunk. Again, lowest common denominator :lol: I'd have so much more respect for McCain's campaign if they just gave people some credit. In truth, and hopefully the way I would expect a campaign to operate, there is no objective reality to a state. Saying part of a state isn't "real" is entirely subjective, and only serves to alienate part of the voter base if used in a campaign. I just have a problem with a campaign that is so blatantly willing to exclude people from their interest based on geographic location and, apparently, the supposed lifestyles and ideas that come with those areas.
- CaptainHenreh - 10-21-2008
Goodspeed Wrote:it seemed to me as if she was side-stepping metro-DC residents to covet joe-sixpack biblebeater mcdrunk.
Goodspeed Wrote:I'd have so much more respect for McCain's campaign if they just gave people some credit.
El oh el.
- Goodspeed - 10-21-2008
CaptainHenreh Wrote:El oh el.
Well OK, that was a vast generalization on my part. I didn't mean to imply that living out in the country negates you from having a valid political opinion. I guess my thoughts came about after ColinP verbally pointed out something I had been thinking, that the democratic campaign is more universal in its scope, whereas McCain's, as this woman proved, is willing to sacrifice perhaps key (and populous) areas to force their campaign strategy of appealing to far-right conservatives. I'm not saying one is better, just that one is more narrow in its focus and not how I would hope to run a campaign.
Now, as for myself, I'm not from a rural area, I'm not religious, and I could understand how not being a member of their so-called "real" America could turn me off of their message after instantly becoming a second-rate interest to them. Displaying that attitude certainly, in my opinion, isn't going to net you many votes in urban areas if your geographic area is a slight against their campaign tenants.
- Ginger - 10-21-2008
Gave some credit? Like the way Obama's campaign makes you think he's "giving you credit" and then tells you the lies that you want to hear? They're all professional Liars, Cheats, and Thieves.