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- CaptainHenreh - 06-26-2007
Mike Wrote:hrmmm so i'm doing some little tallies in my head...
500 for headwork
200 for hondata
150 for intake manifold
450 for exhaust
350 for header (i was thinking jdm 4-1, but i have a dc sports i suppose i could use)
350 for cams
100 for tune
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2100 for 35hp and little room for improvement
4000 for jdm b18c5 w/ lsd
-1000 for sale of my motor
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3000 for 60hp and stock reliability
hrm, maybe i ought to rethink this swap thing.
I think you'll see a little more than 35hp, but you're right...4 grand for a B18C5 + HLSD, minus what you can sell the LS motor for seems like a pretty good deal. I'm guessing there's a reason it's popular, you know?
- Mike - 06-26-2007
nope, they're still right around 4k. back when you were looking i'm pretty sure they were 5k.
- Mike - 06-26-2007
i guess my issue with the swap is they money is one lump sum... that's a tough one...
- .RJ - 06-26-2007
track bike? :lol:
- Mike - 06-26-2007
.RJ Wrote:track bike? :lol:
i like my limbs and brain working the way they do, but thanks.
- .RJ - 06-26-2007
Dont fall off? :dunno:
- Maengelito - 06-26-2007
Mike Wrote:.RJ Wrote:track bike? :lol:
i like my limbs and brain working the way they do, but thanks.
haha, if you're cool with settling on that, then good for you!
what do those K motors go for these days?
- CaptainHenreh - 06-26-2007
Mike, no matter what I think you're dead on about having an LSD. Even with (maybe especially with) FWD an LSD makes an enormous difference in a corner, IMHO.
- Mike - 06-26-2007
Maengelito Wrote:Mike Wrote:.RJ Wrote:track bike? :lol:
i like my limbs and brain working the way they do, but thanks.
haha, if you're cool with settling on that, then good for you!
what do those K motors go for these days?
more than i can afford, pal. and... they don't have a sweet vtec changeover
- white_2kgt - 06-26-2007
.RJ Wrote:HAULN-SS Wrote:I guess I dont know shit
Clearly.
A new head from honda is ~$1200, and thats bare... no valves, guides, cams or seals.
Yup, that's about what one of mine cost.
- .RJ - 06-26-2007
CaptainHenreh Wrote:Even with (maybe especially with) FWD an LSD makes an enormous difference in a corner, IMHO.
Not on the LS motor. Even in the carousel at summit, you get a little inside wheelspin with a torsen, its really no different than with an open diff. Its probably worth a few tenths a lap at best.
- CaptainHenreh - 06-26-2007
.RJ Wrote:CaptainHenreh Wrote:Even with (maybe especially with) FWD an LSD makes an enormous difference in a corner, IMHO.
Not on the LS motor. Even in the carousel at summit, you get a little inside wheelspin with a torsen, its really no different than with an open diff. Its probably worth a few tenths a lap at best.
Sentra SE-R makes 145hp, and really benefits from a LSD. Doesn't the LS make like, 130?
- Mike - 06-26-2007
142
- .RJ - 06-26-2007
The SE-R also has Mac Struts, no camber and a pretty poor camber curve.
- CaptainHenreh - 06-26-2007
.RJ Wrote:The SE-R also has Mac Struts, no camber and a pretty poor camber curve.
*yawn* Whatever. LSD=Good.
- .RJ - 06-26-2007
CaptainHenreh Wrote:*yawn* Whatever. LSD=Good.
You cant poo-poo poor suspension design. The honda setup works pretty damn well, and with a fairly low HP track car the LSD just isnt that big of a deal. There are much "better" diffs out there than the OEM Torsen, too, but there are plenty of cars that hold track records with that diff installed.
So, yes, LSD = Good, but in mikey's case LSD = put it in whenever he puts in another transmission if he feels like it.
- Mike - 08-23-2007
Passenger seat and harness installed. Weighed everything and I'm only saving 5lbs by installing it all. Oh well, that wasn't the point anyway.
Also to do today: tighten all bolts on harnesses and seats, tighten rearview mirror, lower front by quarter of an inch and check all bolts up front.
Tonight or at the track: Flush brake fluid
- Chris - 08-23-2007
Mike Wrote:Passenger seat and harness installed. Weighed everything and I'm only saving 5lbs by installing it all. Oh well, that wasn't the point anyway.
Also to do today: tighten all bolts on harnesses and seats, tighten rearview mirror, lower front by quarter of an inch and check all bolts up front.
Tonight or at the track: Flush brake fluid
I can probably give you a hand with the brakes on friday if I get there early enough. I'm leaving around 12:30 from work and trying a different route which should take about 2 hrs. I also have some work I may do on my car once I get there. See you then!
- Mike - 08-23-2007
doesn't the track open at 530 though?
i said screw lowering the front... it looks fine and my camber kit definitely doesn't hit at this height so why bother?
all bolts on seats/harnesses tight.
to do: tighten rearview, install brake ducts (f'ing weather), flush brakes, pack.
- Mike - 08-23-2007
side note: does anyone know if there is a fix for pad knockback? i'm forced to tap the brakes before ten to get them back where they should be... it's getting old.