(03-02-2018, 01:04 PM)D_Eclipse9916 Wrote: I thought Taylor spending $1k on snake oil would have had the forum in complete meltdown, instead we argue about the usefulness of a locking tailgate.  This forum has come a long way.

(03-02-2018, 01:14 PM)Senor_Taylor Wrote: Yeah, well y'all hate on my snake oil all you want. We'll see who is laughing when these magic beans I bought from the dealer sprout.

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(03-02-2018, 03:41 PM)Jake Wrote:

(03-02-2018, 01:14 PM)Senor_Taylor Wrote: Yeah, well y'all hate on my snake oil all you want. We'll see who is laughing when these magic beans I bought from the dealer sprout.

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What, is your GTI going to turn into a Tiguan or something?

(03-14-2018, 04:23 PM)WRXtranceformed Wrote: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/14/tesla-manufacturing-high-volume-of-flawed-parts-employees.html

(03-14-2018, 09:01 PM)JPolen01 Wrote: Where is the showroom in DC? I remember years ago, probably 2012, they closed down the showroom in DC and moved out to a Arlington.

(03-14-2018, 08:54 PM)Goodspeed Wrote: Jalopnik's been having a whole series of articles dedicated to the supposed woes at Tesla with the Model 3. Some of them seemed hyperbolic, but I will say when I was in DC the other day, I stepped into the Tesla showroom and poked around a Model S, X, and 3 on the floor. The S and X were beautifully finished, but the 3 had pretty terrible panel gaps/alignment and overall looked cut-rate next to the other two. Which, I mean, it is....but it's obvious they haven't yet figured out how to build a cheaper car that doesn't look it so obviously to the naked eye (think Lexus IS vs. LS)

(03-14-2018, 08:54 PM)Goodspeed Wrote: Jalopnik's been having a whole series of articles dedicated to the supposed woes at Tesla with the Model 3. Some of them seemed hyperbolic, but I will say when I was in DC the other day, I stepped into the Tesla showroom and poked around a Model S, X, and 3 on the floor. The S and X were beautifully finished, but the 3 had pretty terrible panel gaps/alignment and overall looked cut-rate next to the other two. Which, I mean, it is....but it's obvious they haven't yet figured out how to build a cheaper car that doesn't look it so obviously to the naked eye (think Lexus IS vs. LS)

(03-15-2018, 12:38 PM)Eco_Boi_Stephen Wrote: Tesla has a huge magnifying glass on them right now. If you look at most manufacturers that have invested way more time and money into their manufacturing process they still get a lot of stuff messed up. I think that it's a tad bit easier for them to hide their screw ups or blame things on user error. However, some of the mistakes from Tesla seem like rookie mistakes imo.

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(03-28-2018, 11:40 AM)G.Irish Wrote: There is certainly some jealously behind the hate on Tesla but the vast majority of it is because Tesla is getting a lot of stuff massively wrong, is burning a massive amount of money, and is only surviving on their ability to hype the next thing they will fail to deliver on.

Tesla has done a great job of brand building and they are delivering cars but the defect rate on delivered cars is hilariously high, their production rate on the Model 3 is waayyyyy behind projects, and they're burning through money far faster than they can make it. The excuse for along time was that they were burning money on building up capacity and they'll be profitable one day. The problem with that is that they're way behind on production capacity goals, and the big fish are gonna start moving into their turf in the near term future.

When cars like the Mission E come to the market at similar prices with far better fit, finish, and reliability as well as interior design and performance, Tesla is gonna be in a world of hurt.