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Re: Video Games Thread - Gamertags in 1st post - Mike - 03-18-2014
Not 1080p? I'm as picky as anyone and actually worked in the video industry for a few years... That's the worst argument I've ever heard. I'd love to put 1080p next to 960p and have one of these guys tell me which is which. Such a joke. Not once have I been playing and said "Shit, this sucks. I'd be having more fun if there were more pixels."
Re: Video Games Thread - Gamertags in 1st post - Evan - 03-18-2014
Mike Wrote:Not 1080p? I'm as picky as anyone and actually worked in the video industry for a few years... That's the worst argument I've ever heard. I'd love to put 1080p next to 960p and have one of these guys tell me which is which. Such a joke. Not once have I been playing and said "Shit, this sucks. I'd be having more fun if there were more pixels."<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8Zzkw4T04A">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8Zzkw4T04A</a><!-- m -->
thats vs a midrange pc running at 1080p, not some gaming monster machine. (and xbo isnt 960p, its a hair over 720p)
If graphics dont matter then why did you buy a next gen console?
Re: Video Games Thread - Gamertags in 1st post - Ken - 03-18-2014
Evan Wrote:Mike Wrote:Not 1080p? I'm as picky as anyone and actually worked in the video industry for a few years... That's the worst argument I've ever heard. I'd love to put 1080p next to 960p and have one of these guys tell me which is which. Such a joke. Not once have I been playing and said "Shit, this sucks. I'd be having more fun if there were more pixels."<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8Zzkw4T04A">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8Zzkw4T04A</a><!-- m -->
thats vs a midrange pc running at 1080p, not some gaming monster machine. (and xbo isnt 960p, its a hair over 720p)
If graphics dont matter then why did you buy a next gen console?
Great. Now I can't play my PC version of the same game next to my XB1 or I'm going to notice the subtle differences in quality.
Life = ruined.
Re: Video Games Thread - Gamertags in 1st post - WRXtranceformed - 03-18-2014
Yeah I was under the impression that it ran sub 720p:
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/03/18/titanfall-on-xbox-360-reportedly-runs-at-sub-720p?abthid=53278e5e5d805a6a6c000053">http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/03/18/ ... 6a6c000053</a><!-- m -->
The beta only ran at 792p: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/176599-titanfall-beta-only-runs-at-792p-xbox-one-fails-to-deliver-1080p-for-major-release">http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/17659 ... or-release</a><!-- m -->
It doesn't sound like there are any plans to run it at full 1080p because it's a multi-gen multi-platform game. I would definitely expect much more from a headliner next gen game and console. I am not a videophile but I can definitely tell the difference between 720p and 1080p.
Re: Video Games Thread - Gamertags in 1st post - Apoc - 03-18-2014
Evan Wrote:If graphics dont matter then why did you buy a next gen console?
I can't speak for Mike, but I bought mine because I wanted/needed a new entertainment machine. Blu-ray, voice control of my entire entertainment center, better streaming options and newer games are the reasons I bought it.
Re: Video Games Thread - Gamertags in 1st post - Ken - 03-18-2014
WRXtranceformed Wrote:Yeah I was under the impression that it ran sub 720p:
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/03/18/titanfall-on-xbox-360-reportedly-runs-at-sub-720p?abthid=53278e5e5d805a6a6c000053">http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/03/18/ ... 6a6c000053</a><!-- m -->
The beta only ran at 792p: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/176599-titanfall-beta-only-runs-at-792p-xbox-one-fails-to-deliver-1080p-for-major-release">http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/17659 ... or-release</a><!-- m -->
It doesn't sound like there are any plans to run it at full 1080p because it's a multi-gen multi-platform game. I would definitely expect much more from a headliner next gen game and console. I am not a videophile but I can definitely tell the difference between 720p and 1080p.
That first link is for 360...
Re: Video Games Thread - Gamertags in 1st post - WRXtranceformed - 03-18-2014
Ken Wrote:You are correct but it sounds like it wasn't intially designed to be that much better on the XB1 because of the dual platform release. 792p looks like so far is the best.WRXtranceformed Wrote:Yeah I was under the impression that it ran sub 720p:
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/03/18/titanfall-on-xbox-360-reportedly-runs-at-sub-720p?abthid=53278e5e5d805a6a6c000053">http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/03/18/ ... 6a6c000053</a><!-- m -->
The beta only ran at 792p: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/176599-titanfall-beta-only-runs-at-792p-xbox-one-fails-to-deliver-1080p-for-major-release">http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/17659 ... or-release</a><!-- m -->
It doesn't sound like there are any plans to run it at full 1080p because it's a multi-gen multi-platform game. I would definitely expect much more from a headliner next gen game and console. I am not a videophile but I can definitely tell the difference between 720p and 1080p.
That first link is for 360...
Chris, I am glad it ticks all of your boxes but I am going to go out on a limb here and say that a new entertainment center hub is not the reason that the vast majority of people upgraded to an XB1. What is appealing about the PS4 now is that it is designed to be strictly a gaming console with the focus put on games. That is the most important part about any system for a gamer.
Looking back, what was the point of upgrading when none of the game releases so far other than Ryse (which I beat in all of about 6 hours and was not exactly visually or gameplay-wise groundbreaking) were made for the XB1 and they all look exactly the same on both systems?
Re: Video Games Thread - Gamertags in 1st post - CaptainHenreh - 03-18-2014
WRXtranceformed Wrote:What is appealing about the PS4 now is that it is designed to be strictly a gaming console with the focus put on games. That is the most important part about any system for a gamer.
Where have I heard THAT before?
Re: Video Games Thread - Gamertags in 1st post - WRXtranceformed - 03-18-2014
CaptainHenreh Wrote:If this was commented on in the pre-release pre-purchase days then I gladly give you credit where credit is due. I put more stock in my longevity, list of friends and historically superior multiplayer process that XBOX held when I bought the One but I can't shake this feeling that I should have gone with my instincts and switched platforms when they tried to pull all of that shady nonsense and then "fixed" it all because they knew they would lose a lot of buyers.WRXtranceformed Wrote:What is appealing about the PS4 now is that it is designed to be strictly a gaming console with the focus put on games. That is the most important part about any system for a gamer.
Where have I heard THAT before?
Re: Video Games Thread - Gamertags in 1st post - Mike - 03-18-2014
Apoc Wrote:Evan Wrote:If graphics dont matter then why did you buy a next gen console?
I can't speak for Mike, but I bought mine because I wanted/needed a new entertainment machine. Blu-ray, voice control of my entire entertainment center, better streaming options and newer games are the reasons I bought it.
This.
If you think graphics are all that matter, I can see why you're not a gamer.
Re: Video Games Thread - Gamertags in 1st post - Evan - 03-18-2014
Mike Wrote:so you're saying real gamers care about blu-ray, voice control and movie streaming?Apoc Wrote:Evan Wrote:If graphics dont matter then why did you buy a next gen console?
I can't speak for Mike, but I bought mine because I wanted/needed a new entertainment machine. Blu-ray, voice control of my entire entertainment center, better streaming options and newer games are the reasons I bought it.
This.
If you think graphics are all that matter, I can see why you're not a gamer.
that makes sense.
Re: Video Games Thread - Gamertags in 1st post - Mike - 03-18-2014
Evan Wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8Zzkw4T04A
thats vs a midrange pc running at 1080p, not some gaming monster machine. (and xbo isnt 960p, its a hair over 720p)
thanks for that. i think it only proved my point? i will maintain that when you're actually playing the game (not comparing stills on a computer), there is little appreciable difference. i did only watch three minutes. maybe i missed the moment where it was made clear?
Re: Video Games Thread - Gamertags in 1st post - WRXtranceformed - 03-18-2014
Mike Wrote:Apoc Wrote:Evan Wrote:If graphics dont matter then why did you buy a next gen console?
I can't speak for Mike, but I bought mine because I wanted/needed a new entertainment machine. Blu-ray, voice control of my entire entertainment center, better streaming options and newer games are the reasons I bought it.
This.
If you think graphics are all that matter, I can see why you're not a gamer.
:lol:
This statement makes zero sense. If you think the ability to turn off your TV and sound system by speaking to your XBOX is more important than close-to-PC grade graphics out of a next-gen console (among other important gameplay variables) I would argue that you are not the gamer. I don't mean this to insult Chris, but the reality is that Chris is not a gamer and he pretty much proves this point with the reasons he bought the system.
Re: Video Games Thread - Gamertags in 1st post - Evan - 03-18-2014
Mike Wrote:Evan Wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8Zzkw4T04A
thats vs a midrange pc running at 1080p, not some gaming monster machine. (and xbo isnt 960p, its a hair over 720p)
thanks for that. i think it only proved my point? i will maintain that when you're actually playing the game (not comparing stills on a computer), there is little appreciable difference. i did only watch three minutes. maybe i missed the moment where it was made clear?
Dont be a fanboy bitch mikey.
Mike Wrote:I'd love to put 1080p next to 960p and have one of these guys tell me which is which. Such a joke.
and there they are, next to each other, and there is a clear difference.
but now that your trolling got called, you say it doesnt matter.
I dont have a dog in this fight, but whats more interesting, is the side by side video of old systems vs new, and there being very little difference there. why buy a next gen at all then, since the same games are out for last gen and by your own criteria there is no gain?
Re: Video Games Thread - Gamertags in 1st post - Mike - 03-18-2014
Evan Wrote:so you're saying real gamers care about blu-ray, voice control and movie streaming?
that makes sense.
no, i think you somehow got that completely backwards. probably for trolling purposes, but i'll bite... you asked why i bought next-gen. it was for reasons other than graphics. i was perfectly pleased with 360 graphics. i'm pretty sure caring about blu-ray and the entrainment center experience does not preclude one from being a "gamer." the retarded number of hours i play and how g-d good i am at video games should back that up.
Re: Video Games Thread - Gamertags in 1st post - Mike - 03-18-2014
Evan Wrote:and there they are, next to each other, and there is a clear difference.
Honestly, I don't see it. Maybe the screen on my Mac sucks too much.
Evan Wrote:why buy a next gen at all then, since the same games are out for last gen and by your own criteria there is no gain?
I like technology and was looking to clean up my media center. Why are these somehow invalid reasons?
Re: Video Games Thread - Gamertags in 1st post - Apoc - 03-18-2014
I will freely admit that I probably don't qualify as one (I buy 2-3 games a year) but Mike plays games more than anyone I know and is the poster child for gamers.
It's amusing that someone can only be a gamer if they care about the superbest graphics. That's like saying Evan isn't a car guy because he bought a CUV that fulfills more needs than just going as fast as possible. At some point, we reduce the importance of having the best at one thing because things are more well-rounded machines.
Re: Video Games Thread - Gamertags in 1st post - Mike - 03-18-2014
WRXtranceformed Wrote:Mike Wrote:If you think graphics are all that matter, I can see why you're not a gamer.
:lol:
This statement makes zero sense.
So you're saying that if Super Mario Bros were released today, it'd be considered a horrible game? Someone had better tell all the indie devs who are making tons of dollars on tablets and via XBL Arcade that they're doing it wrong. :roll:
Gameplay > graphics any day.
Re: Video Games Thread - Gamertags in 1st post - Mike - 03-18-2014
Evan Wrote:whats more interesting, is the side by side video of old systems vs new, and there being very little difference there.
it's true, but we're very early in the lifecycle of these systems. aside from the launch titles, i think there have been 2-3 games released for the XB1. once developers get on board, we'll see more than that in a week. developers are also still making the games previous gen compatible so they can't take full advantage of the new systems until they quit that. i mean, they could, but their costs skyrocket when they do. if you take a look at early 360 versus end-of-life xbox, you'll see there was very little difference in the beginning too. after a decade of programming for the 360, the devs made the graphics lightyears better than the early days. so does it make sense to upgrade to next-gen solely for graphics now? no, but i doubt the hardware is changing anytime soon so if you will be upgrading, why wait another six months to a year before the software catches up?
Re: Video Games Thread - Gamertags in 1st post - WRXtranceformed - 03-18-2014
Apoc Wrote:It's amusing that someone can only be a gamer if they care about the superbest graphics. That's like saying Evan isn't a car guy because he bought a CUV that fulfills more needs than just going as fast as possible. At some point, we reduce the importance of having the best at one thing because things are more well-rounded machines.No, you both were putting words in our mouths. Mike was the one saying that if I don't want my XBOX to be a voice-activated remote control then I am not a true gamer. My argument was that if you think that kind of stuff is more important than the visual experience and innovation of a next-generation game and console then you care less about video games than I do. I think that's a pretty fair and accurate point.