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+--- Thread: Project 99 GSX AKA "MN3Y PIT" (/showthread.php?tid=5243)
- Maengelito - 09-17-2007
i got the cheapest snow tires i could find which were mastercrafts. all you need is tread design in the snow, and the more grooves it has, the better. i dont do any serious driving in the snow, and i only use them for like 2 or 3 months max, so i got the cheapest ones i could find
- ViPER1313 - 09-17-2007
I personally think its a tossup - I have driven my SHO with all-seasons and winter tires (Pirelli Wintersport 210s) in the snow and I didn't notice that huge of a difference. All-seasons last longer and are better in the dry, winter tires are marginally better in the snow but suck in the dry and don't last as long. You can pick up used tires for pretty cheap though - just look around and find the best set of all-seasons or winter tires that meet your needs.
- JustinG - 12-27-2007
ok so for Christmas I received Hawk HPS pads and some speed bleeders as well as the RM Racing Sways. The sways shipped out today and should be here next week so im pumped about that. I think I am gonna wait on the brake install until i can get some SS lines in and flush the whole system and do it all at once. PRetty sure im gonn ahave to turn the rotors to. Ill post pics of the sway bar comparison and install as soon as i do it. As an update the car is till running great.
- BLINGMW - 12-27-2007
tell me how the speed bleeders work out for ya, I was not impressed. I had some on my e36 and I swear I had to bleed my brakes WAY more often with them. They seemed to be letting air in somehow (although I'm not sure how they could), and they were much more fragile of course since they're hollow. After breaking two of them off in the calipers, I gave up.
- Feersty - 12-27-2007
Can't go wrong with HPS pads. Mine have been exemplary. They don't have the squeak that my stock pads had as well.
- JustinG - 01-19-2008
just an update, sway bars are in..... well sorta, front went in without a hitch, other than some cursing, until i dropped the lower control arm then it was cake.
Rear was all fine and dandy, passenger side endlink came right off, driver side endlink.......the bastard stripped. So i got the new sways in, just waiting on a new endlink, which im supposed to pick up from advance tomorrow, and then tighten everything up in the rear. Pics to come once i return to the land of Highspeed internet, which has yet to reach my house here in the sticks of buckingham county.
I cant wait...
Oh and i ordered SS brake lines to compliment my speed bleeders and HPS pads, should be installing those next time im home.
- xvxax - 01-19-2008
lets go slam some snow banks i know you want to
- JustinG - 01-21-2008
Swaybars = Sex, im very happy with them, the car is much flatter. Although i prob wont be able to tell a big diff till i do an auto-x, im very very happy with this mod.
Come home to this beautiful sight
![[Image: P1030409%20001.JPG]](http://lh4.google.com/Jgallamore/R5VHOtNYWqI/AAAAAAAAAE4/qK-KDr_lHds/s800/P1030409%20001.JPG)
Remove front endlink, using a 14mm and a allen wrench
![[Image: P1030413%20005.JPG]](http://lh6.google.com/Jgallamore/R5VHPNNYWrI/AAAAAAAAAFA/NAYQSyjj7gE/s800/P1030413%20005.JPG)
Old sway/New sway
![[Image: P1030414%20006.JPG]](http://lh4.google.com/Jgallamore/R5VHPtNYWsI/AAAAAAAAAFI/YHvK89FafQk/s800/P1030414%20006.JPG)
![[Image: P1030415%20007.JPG]](http://lh5.google.com/Jgallamore/R5VHP9NYWtI/AAAAAAAAAFQ/Fe-HWOwG8C8/s800/P1030415%20007.JPG)
Drop Control arm to install new sway, factory one came out without having to drop it.
![[Image: P1030424%20016.JPG]](http://lh3.google.com/Jgallamore/R5VHQdNYWuI/AAAAAAAAAFY/j_3QNu_7kqQ/s800/P1030424%20016.JPG)
Horrible pic, New Poly bushing (red), factory bushing
![[Image: P1030425%20017.JPG]](http://lh3.google.com/Jgallamore/R5VIldNYWvI/AAAAAAAAAFk/6p_Gm__nj6k/s800/P1030425%20017.JPG)
The bastard that was the rear endlink, the place where you keep the stud from turning stripped, completely rounded, which is why i had to order a new one.
![[Image: P1030427%20019.JPG]](http://lh5.google.com/Jgallamore/R5VIl9NYWwI/AAAAAAAAAFs/GkaPrbFee_8/s800/P1030427%20019.JPG)
Rear sway old and new
![[Image: P1030431%20023.JPG]](http://lh6.google.com/Jgallamore/R5VImNNYWxI/AAAAAAAAAF0/3hLjJSUUohE/s800/P1030431%20023.JPG)
Rear sway installed
![[Image: P1030432%20024.JPG]](http://lh4.google.com/Jgallamore/R5VImtNYWyI/AAAAAAAAAF8/mneLtvTvWq4/s800/P1030432%20024.JPG)
Rear sway w/ new poly bushing
![[Image: P1030434%20026.JPG]](http://lh5.google.com/Jgallamore/R5VIm9NYWzI/AAAAAAAAAGE/HfNxVlMUUI0/s800/P1030434%20026.JPG)
- ScottyB - 01-21-2008
tech with pics! yay! :lol:
looks good man. i noticed a liberal use of nut-buster too...i hate that stuff, brings back bad memories, haha.
are stock DSM endlinks up to the task? i don't know anything about them. in the suby world our endlinks aren't the best for upgraded stuff.
- JustinG - 01-21-2008
there really aren't any after market like performance endlinks on the market, just the bushings, as far as i know the factory endlinks are fine, DJ may know more.
- Maengelito - 01-21-2008
i do like tech pics, but i still will never understand how you people take pics in the middle of working on the car. my hands are waaaaay too disgusting to hold a cam (and my digicam is pretty well loved, all chipped up and scratched, etc) or i'm just well on my way to getting shit done to take pics at every step. regardless, kudos justin.
- Andy - 01-22-2008
Maengelito Wrote:i do like tech pics, but i still will never understand how you people take pics in the middle of working on the car. my hands are waaaaay too disgusting to hold a cam (and my digicam is pretty well loved, all chipped up and scratched, etc) or i'm just well on my way to getting shit done to take pics at every step. regardless, kudos justin.
I know. I don't know how RJ manages a photoshoot while working on the car. I always mean, try and want to take pics but it never works out.
- Steve85 - 01-22-2008
Nice...
Did the mfr suggest any kind of lube for the poly bushings?
- JustinG - 01-22-2008
the bushings came with a thick lubricant that i applied, the bushings had grooves on the inside to keep some of the lubricant within the bushing
- Evan - 01-22-2008
white97dsm Wrote:there really aren't any after market like performance endlinks on the market, just the bushings, as far as i know the factory endlinks are fine, DJ may know more.They look like pretty standard endlinks, you could get heim jointed endlinks for about $50 per pair.
The major benefit being you can eliminate bind and preload, which do have a significant effect on handling.
The bonus is that it makes the swaybars much easier to install.
- JustinG - 01-22-2008
thanks evan, when looking it up i saw where someone with a eclipse spyder purchased those type of end links for a honda and they worked on his car, i will look into them, but i dunno if i would even know how to set them???? will it effect handling that much????
- Andy - 01-22-2008
white97dsm Wrote:thanks evan, when looking it up i saw where someone with a eclipse spyder purchased those type of end links for a honda and they worked on his car, i will look into them, but i dunno if i would even know how to set them???? will it effect handling that much????
Take measurements of stock endlinks and look them up on mcmaster-carr. Done and done. Your stock endlinks looks pretty short so you should only need a male endlink and a female endlink per side
- D_Eclipse9916 - 01-22-2008
Evan Wrote:white97dsm Wrote:there really aren't any after market like performance endlinks on the market, just the bushings, as far as i know the factory endlinks are fine, DJ may know more.They look like pretty standard endlinks, you could get heim jointed endlinks for about $50 per pair.
The major benefit being you can eliminate bind and preload, which do have a significant effect on handling.
The bonus is that it makes the swaybars much easier to install.
Quoting Evan for significance.
There are no aftermarket endlinks as the DSM ones are "good" enough that there is no need for aftermarket ones.
HOWEVER!!! Doing a custom heim-join endlinks (I will be doing 1 per sway bar) allows you to help eliminate preload as Evan has said. However, there is little to no binding in the stock DSM endlinks, now talk about the rest of our suspension bushigns and you would be shaking your head :lol: .
As for Mcmaster-carr, a few have done this but when you add it up compared to the heimjoints you can get for this honda application, it is about the same, so no point.
- Andy - 01-22-2008
What honda application and where are you getting them from?
- JustinG - 01-26-2008
HPS Pads, Technafit SS Brake Lines, new Rotors, and the speedbleeders are goin on next weekend, ill take pics of that ish to....